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    Re: Mountain Lion shot in Des Moines

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Janny View Post
    Really bad news: That's not a cougar. At best that's a GILF, maybe a GGILF. At worst? It's the Shining, room 237.
    Damn, just when I was feeling good about myself. Thanks for getting me up to speed before I posted the photo.



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    Re: Mountain Lion shot in Des Moines

    They should have called that Wildman from the discovery channel. You know, the autistic guy that they send out to wrestle dangerous animals.



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    Re: Mountain Lion shot in Des Moines

    Quote Originally Posted by NickTheGreat View Post
    Does any legal beagle know what would happen if I shot a mountain lion in the yard of my Des Moines home?

    Would I get charged with firing a weapon in the city limits? Or would it be okay in self defense?
    Just make sure you yell "it's coming right at me!" before firing and you're good to go.


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    Re: Mountain Lion shot in Des Moines

    I lived in Tucson for a while and they didn't kill the lions unless they killed first. Most of them would be so afraid of people, they wouldn't come anywhere near you. It is very unnatural for a lion to attack a human. I love how everyone assumes this thing is just going to go around eating everybody if they let it live. It is pretty sad that they killed it, and I don't even like animals.



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    Re: Mountain Lion shot in Des Moines

    Verified Mountain Lion Attacks on Humans in California (1890 - 2007)
    DATE TYPE ATTACK LOCATION COUNTY VICTIM SEX AGE
    June 1890 Fatal Quartz Valley Siskiyou Male 7yrs.
    July 1909 Fatal* Morgan Hill Santa Clara Male 10 yrs.
    Fatal* Female 22 yrs.
    March 1986 Nonfatal Caspers Wilderness Park Orange Female 5 yrs.
    Oct. 1986 Nonfatal Caspers Wilderness Park Orange Male 6 yrs.
    March 1992 Nonfatal Gaviota State Park Santa Barbara Male 9 yrs.
    Sept. 1993 Nonfatal Cuyamaca State Park San Diego Female 10 yrs.
    Apr. 1994 Fatal Auburn State Recreation Area El Dorado Female 40 yrs.
    Aug. 1994 Nonfatal Mendocino County (remote) Mendocino Male 50s
    Nonfatal Female 50s
    Dec. 1994 Fatal Cuyamaca State Park San Diego Female 56 yrs.
    Mar. 1995 Nonfatal Mt. Lowe (San Gabriel Mtns.) Los Angeles Male 27 yrs.
    Jan. 2004 Fatal Whiting Ranch Regional Park Orange Male 35 yrs.
    Jan. 2004 Nonfatal Whiting Ranch Regional Park Orange Female 30 yrs.
    June 2004 Nonfatal Sequoia National Forest Tulare Female 28 yrs.
    Jan. 2007 Nonfatal Prairie Creek Redwoods State Park Humboldt Male 70 yrs
    *Fatalities in 1909 diagnosed as due to rabies.
    Last updated: Feb. 7, 2007


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    Re: Mountain Lion shot in Des Moines

    Quote Originally Posted by IASTATE4LIFE View Post
    I lived in Tucson for a while and they didn't kill the lions unless they killed first. Most of them would be so afraid of people, they wouldn't come anywhere near you. It is very unnatural for a lion to attack a human. I love how everyone assumes this thing is just going to go around eating everybody if they let it live. It is pretty sad that they killed it, and I don't even like animals.
    I would rather the Police be proactive then reactive here. Also, there is a great chance that any domesticated pet would be eaten alive by this thing. If the Police just scared this thing out of that neighborhood, and the next day it ate someones dog, how would you feel?



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    Re: Mountain Lion shot in Des Moines

    Rather difficult to just chase it off when the nearest natural cover (the river) is 1.3 miles away. I have no issue with the decision to "shoot to kill".




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    Re: Mountain Lion shot in Des Moines

    Quote Originally Posted by oldman View Post
    Verified Mountain Lion Attacks on Humans in California (1890 - 2007)
    DATE TYPE ATTACK LOCATION COUNTY VICTIM SEX AGE
    June 1890 Fatal Quartz Valley Siskiyou Male 7yrs.
    July 1909 Fatal* Morgan Hill Santa Clara Male 10 yrs.
    Fatal* Female 22 yrs.
    March 1986 Nonfatal Caspers Wilderness Park Orange Female 5 yrs.
    Oct. 1986 Nonfatal Caspers Wilderness Park Orange Male 6 yrs.
    March 1992 Nonfatal Gaviota State Park Santa Barbara Male 9 yrs.
    Sept. 1993 Nonfatal Cuyamaca State Park San Diego Female 10 yrs.
    Apr. 1994 Fatal Auburn State Recreation Area El Dorado Female 40 yrs.
    Aug. 1994 Nonfatal Mendocino County (remote) Mendocino Male 50s
    Nonfatal Female 50s
    Dec. 1994 Fatal Cuyamaca State Park San Diego Female 56 yrs.
    Mar. 1995 Nonfatal Mt. Lowe (San Gabriel Mtns.) Los Angeles Male 27 yrs.
    Jan. 2004 Fatal Whiting Ranch Regional Park Orange Male 35 yrs.
    Jan. 2004 Nonfatal Whiting Ranch Regional Park Orange Female 30 yrs.
    June 2004 Nonfatal Sequoia National Forest Tulare Female 28 yrs.
    Jan. 2007 Nonfatal Prairie Creek Redwoods State Park Humboldt Male 70 yrs
    *Fatalities in 1909 diagnosed as due to rabies.
    Last updated: Feb. 7, 2007

    Pretty sure I saw a show about the attacks at Whiting Ranch Regional Park.

    CNN.com - Mountain lion victim upgraded to fair condition - Jan. 10, 2004



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    Re: Mountain Lion shot in Des Moines

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUAgronomist View Post
    Rather difficult to just chase it off when the nearest natural cover (the river) is 1.3 miles away. I have no issue with the decision to "shoot to kill".
    Yep, it's different in parts of the country where law enforcement are trained and equipped to handle mountain lions. The DMPD had no choice here. That said, when is the DNR going to take their head out of their ***** and recognize that these guys have a viable population in this state? It doesn't get much more interior than Des Moines.




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    Re: Mountain Lion shot in Des Moines

    I get the "tranquilize it" argument if you're talking about something harmless, like a canadian. If you find a canadian in your backyard, yes..tranquilize it and ship it back to its natural habitat. With mountain lions, I'm all for shoot first ask questions later. I also am not the type that picks up spiders in the house and walks them outside. I kill and flush them. If a mountain lion would fit, I would take the same approach.



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    Re: Mountain Lion shot in Des Moines

    Quote Originally Posted by isuchicago View Post
    I get the "tranquilize it" argument if you're talking about something harmless, like a canadian. If you find a canadian in your backyard, yes..tranquilize it and ship it back to its natural habitat. With mountain lions, I'm all for shoot first ask questions later. I also am not the type that picks up spiders in the house and walks them outside. I kill and flush them. If a mountain lion would fit, I would take the same approach.
    You'd flush it down the drain?




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    Re: Mountain Lion shot in Des Moines

    I called the DNR over 4 years ago when i spotted two mountain lions at the I80/65 bypass (West of Bass Pro). It scared me so much i went door to door notifying the neighbors of what i had seen. The DNR told me i was seeing things and there was no mountain lions in Iowa.



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    Re: Mountain Lion shot in Des Moines

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    Denny Arthur's
    Denny Arthur's has enough cougars already.



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    Re: Mountain Lion shot in Des Moines

    Quote Originally Posted by ruxCYtable View Post
    I'm not a tree hugger or anything but why do they have to kill them? Couldn't they tranquilize and relocate it?

    EDIT: Oops. I guess I'm in the why couldn't they tranquilize it crowd now. No, but seriously, it's an honest question. I'm not an animal rights activist and I have no problem with hunting or any of that.
    I'd agree if it was out in the country (I'd probably just leave it alone because it was so cool). In town though, different story. Sad deal, but its a dangerous animal out of its territory.



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    Re: Mountain Lion shot in Des Moines

    Quote Originally Posted by akaclone View Post
    I called the DNR over 4 years ago when i spotted two mountain lions at the I80/65 bypass (West of Bass Pro). It scared me so much i went door to door notifying the neighbors of what i had seen. The DNR told me i was seeing things and there was no mountain lions in Iowa.
    In their defense 1:you were prob seeing things, 2: they dont travel in groups 3: they had already aknowleged there were lions in IA 4 yrs ago.



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