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    Two Quarterback System

    I think we should start playing both Steele and Barnett for a couple of series at the beginning of each game and then go with whoever is being more productive for the rest of the game. If one of them consistently proves to be the more productive QB, then go back to one QB. If neither of them can do the job, throw Richardson into the rotation and see what he can do.

    The blocking was terrible last night, but the running backs were occasionally finding ways to make some yards. If JB had been in there with them, that running game might have been good enough to keep our defense off the field a little more. Of course we'll never know for sure, but lets try it and see what happens. What we're doing certainly isn't working.



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    Re: Two Quarterback System

    Don't disagree, but that is not good for either of their consistency. The D is good enough to keep most of the Big 12 offenses in check, ISU needs a game manager at this point, someone who isn't going to drop the ball while they are runnning away from a defender. Work the defense down, work the clock down and let the great backs take over the game late in the 3rd and 4th quarters. I thought that was what they were going to do this game, play conservative, let the RBs chip away at TTU until their D was too gassed to do anything against ISU. Unfortunately, that didn't happen.



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    Re: Two Quarterback System

    Quote Originally Posted by CYme View Post
    Don't disagree, but that is not good for either of their consistency. The D is good enough to keep most of the Big 12 offenses in check, ISU needs a game manager at this point, someone who isn't going to drop the ball while they are runnning away from a defender. Work the defense down, work the clock down and let the great backs take over the game late in the 3rd and 4th quarters. I thought that was what they were going to do this game, play conservative, let the RBs chip away at TTU until their D was too gassed to do anything against ISU. Unfortunately, that didn't happen.
    I thought that was exactly what they should have done myself. People on here are complaining about too much running, but I would have run much more. The running backs were creating their own holes now and then and eventually that wears down a defense. I don't know about this year, but last year TT was fast, but undersized. With more pounding, this game may have been very different in the 3rd and 4th quarters. And of course JB would have been more effective in assisting with that pounding.

    Still, I think there are certain opponents and certain days when SJ might be more effective than JB, and vice versa. I'd like to see them go head-to-head for at least a couple of games to see what happens.



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    Re: Two Quarterback System

    Two QB system violates some kind of coaches' code clause for about 95 percent of coaches, including ours. And they're not changing their minds, come hell or high water.



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    Re: Two Quarterback System

    Quote Originally Posted by Senolcyc View Post
    Two QB system violates some kind of coaches' code clause for about 95 percent of coaches, including ours. And they're not changing their minds, come hell or high water.
    I know this and I think CPR has even said this. But sometimes the situation dictates it. Before last night, I thought we had the perfect quarterback--if you could combine Steele's passing with Barnet's running abilities. I'm not much more uncertain about Steele's passing abilities, but I'd like to see them go head to head in a game and see how it goes. I really do believe that the better quarterback of the two MIGHT depend upon who we are playing.

    If he CPR doesn't go this route, then I think he has to go with JB. From what I heard from the post game interviews with the other players, I don't think they have a lot of confidence in him. JB isn't the most talented, but I think he's a better leader and gets more out of his teammates (especially the running backs!). We don't need a worldbeater for a quarterback. Just some consistency. I think CPR sees Steele's athleticism and has been hoping for worldbeater. But it doesn't look like it will happen.



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    Re: Two Quarterback System

    Nope, you go with one guy and if that one guy is sucking it up, then bench his *** and put in the other guy. Do not go back and forth not consistent enough and putting to much doubt in the back of their mind and pressure.



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    Re: Two Quarterback System

    Play them both at the same time, like Louisiana-Monroe did against Baylor. Adds a wrinkle - how do you gameplan for that?!



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    Re: Two Quarterback System

    Quote Originally Posted by CtownCyclone View Post
    Play them both at the same time, like Louisiana-Monroe did against Baylor. Adds a wrinkle - how do you gameplan for that?!
    You tackle whichever one has the ball, with the d-lineman who run right by our o-line.



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    Re: Two Quarterback System

    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbuk View Post
    You tackle whichever one has the ball, with the d-lineman who run right by our o-line.
    Flawless I tell you. Flawless!

    Wait what....O line protection. ****




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    Re: Two Quarterback System

    Quote Originally Posted by CtownCyclone View Post
    Play them both at the same time, like Louisiana-Monroe did against Baylor. Adds a wrinkle - how do you gameplan for that?!
    For "Super Confusion Mode" you would have both Barnett and Jantz in the backfield and Tiller lined up at wideout. Make Tiller go in motion so you have 3 QB's in the same area when the ball is snapped. Find a new name for the system, get on ESPN, ???, profit.



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    Re: Two Quarterback System

    Quote Originally Posted by CtownCyclone View Post
    For "Super Confusion Mode" you would have both Barnett and Jantz in the backfield and Tiller lined up at wideout. Make Tiller go in motion so you have 3 QB's in the same area when the ball is snapped. Find a new name for the system, get on ESPN, ???, profit.
    I nominate the name wild cluster ****.



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    Re: Two Quarterback System

    I would support a two QB position but not in how you describe. You use both in a variety of ways not just "let's see who is better today".

    It's not ideal, but we could continue doing what we are doing to get back to a 4 game conference losing streak again.

    The travesty in all of this was somehow Barnett could not keep the starting QB job even through bowl preparation.



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    Re: Two Quarterback System

    Something has to be done differently. The last decent offensive effort was against OK State.


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    When was the last time Iowa State made a bowl game under a 2 qb system....



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    Re: Two Quarterback System

    Yes please... if we cannot get running game going,,, JB should come in for a few series... agree...



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