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    How does CPR fix these problems on the offense?

    The buck stops with CPR. It is ultimately up to him to fix the problems with the offense. I am not convinced that the problems are the fault of Coach Mess, as Herman had the same problems. I suspect that it is a combination of lack of talent and lack of conditioning.

    My question is: has the recruiting recently been good enough to fix the problems on the OL going forward? I took a look at the recruiting list for 2012, most of whom would be redshirting this year. We had 2 3-star OLs and 1 2-star OL. Is that good enough for the Big 12?



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    Re: How does CPR fix these problems on the offense?

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    Re: How does CPR fix these problems on the offense?

    Maybe they need to stop with the six months of QB competition every spring and summer. I imagine alot of the QB position has to do with confidence. They did this last year as well, making both QB's feel inadequate and feeding the doubt monster. Competition is good, but if they are as evenly matched as you say they are, just pick one and let him build up his confidence and not be going into every game scared of the hook. Perception is reality, and if the QB's play timid and percieve that they are going to lose their position if they screw up, then you get timid plays, unsure throws, and doubt.

    I also think they need to pick an identity on offense as well. Are you gonna run the spread up-tempo? Are you going to utilize a run spread? It seems we hear alot about the spread offense, but there are soooo many kinds of spread offenses that are available. ISU it seems hasn't made up there minds what type of spread we are going to run....this has been ongoing for like 5 years.


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    Re: How does CPR fix these problems on the offense?

    Pick a style first. Then go forward, you have got to pick a style that fits the players that are available. What is everyone's thoughts about our OC coaching from the sidelines? For me I think it has not been effective. I just want a good OC and right now and the past 5 years that has not happened. I will say for both sides of the ball it starts in the trenches. Our receivers also need to be more physical. The list unfortunately for our offense is very long.



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    Re: How does CPR fix these problems on the offense?

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUAgronomist View Post
    Pretty sure he was in the box last night. Not that it means anything.
    No he was not.



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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    No he was not.
    Thank you. I wasn't sure. Saw quite a few people say he was.




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    Re: How does CPR fix these problems on the offense?

    Our O line and running backs are Big 12 caliber. Our young WRs might be there with experience. Our QB play is not close.
    We have to find a QB who can make the right read with tight coverage and lay it in there. Hard to find I know, but we'll see many of them on the other sideline later this year. Let's see what we have in Richardson.


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    Re: How does CPR fix these problems on the offense?

    We have to get better offensive players then we currently have. Typically the talent deficit is more on the defensive side of the ball at ISU, but that appears to be changing.

    For out style of play, you need se explosive WR's and a really good QB and I'm not seeing that



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    Re: How does CPR fix these problems on the offense?

    Stop running zone read and screen passes.



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    Re: How does CPR fix these problems on the offense?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbuk View Post
    Stop running zone read and screen passes.
    Right. Steele has not and will not be able to run read the correct way. Throw it out. Figure out how to run the ball in other ways.

    Also, I went along with it for three weeks but I'm done now....Mess being on the field isn't working.


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    Re: How does CPR fix these problems on the offense?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tre4ISU View Post
    Right. Steele has not and will not be able to run read the correct way. Throw it out. Figure out how to run the ball in other ways.

    Also, I went along with it for three weeks but I'm done now....Mess being on the field isn't working.
    The most prolific run I saw steele do out of the zone read was for about 4 yards. The 20 yard scamper was off a broken play.



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    Re: How does CPR fix these problems on the offense?

    I think you're seeing a fairly significant talent gap, offensively compared with the rest of the B12. Fortunately we have a pretty salty D, and they should keep us in a lot of games. But until CPR can close the recruiting gap, I don't see us doing better than 6-6 typically, which has been the norm under CPR.

    It could be worse, and certainly has been throughout most of ISU's FB history, but we don't appear to have the offensive talent needed to win more than .500 in the second toughest, and possibly deepest top to bottom conference in the country.



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    Re: How does CPR fix these problems on the offense?

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    No he was not.
    Quote Originally Posted by ISUAgronomist View Post
    Thank you. I wasn't sure. Saw quite a few people say he was.
    He did take the elevator up at the end of halftime. I was waiting in the refill line and the event staff camo-crew pushed through the line with what looked like mostly grad assistants. Mess was in the second group that came through. Doesn't mean he stayed up there, just headed that way before the second half kick.



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    Re: How does CPR fix these problems on the offense?

    I think if everyone takes a step back and looks at last night we got outcoached on the O side. Bruns even side they were running schemes they had never seen and were not ready for. I think TTU put in some different packages that Mess wasnt ready for and could not adjust too. For us to be successful we have to be able to adjust and quickly. Until then we will get what we got today.



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    Re: How does CPR fix these problems on the offense?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    I think if everyone takes a step back and looks at last night we got outcoached on the O side. Bruns even side they were running schemes they had never seen and were not ready for. I think TTU put in some different packages that Mess wasnt ready for and could not adjust too. For us to be successful we have to be able to adjust and quickly. Until then we will get what we got today.
    Well, Mess better get used to pressure pretty quick because TCU is going to bring it. We have to use Brun and West in the slots to hold people in the middle of the field. There is nothing stopping team from coming straight up the middle. I would hope we will see some tunnel screens and middle screens to keep defenses honest as well. Also, we have a guy sitting who I think could be useful in the slot and in motion not named West. His name is Nealy. Get him on the field.


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