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    what did you think of this play? Clev-Bal Monday night

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    Hawkeye11en1 - Do you think a no call was the proper call? Or what should the call have been, according to you since you have the rule book down inside and out?


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    Re: Hawkeye11en1 with your interpretation of rules, what did you think of this play?

    No call, brah. He isn't defenseless, he is a ball carrier. Brah.


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    Re: Hawkeye11en1 with your interpretation of rules, what did you think of this play?

    This is going to end well.



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    Re: Hawkeye11en1 with your interpretation of rules, what did you think of this play?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye11en1 View Post
    No call, brah. He isn't defenseless, he is a ball carrier. Brah.

    What makes him a ball carrier, as opposed to a Rec who catches a pass and is defenseless even if he has established possession.


    EDIT - and a ball carrier can still get a helmet to helmet penalty, etc. What makes this different


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    Re: Hawkeye11en1 with your interpretation of rules, what did you think of this play?

    Quote Originally Posted by CYcoFan View Post
    What makes him a ball carrier, as opposed to a Rec who catches a pass and is defenseless even if he has established possession.
    A rec that catches a pass and makes a move is no different than a ball carrier. A rec that doesn't have a chance to make a move to protect themselves or has not completed possession is defenseless. If they have completed possession, by the rule of "possession", you shouldn't call defenseless rec.


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    Re: Hawkeye11en1 with your interpretation of rules, what did you think of this play?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye11en1 View Post
    A rec that catches a pass and makes a move is no different than a ball carrier. A rec that doesn't have a chance to make a move to protect themselves or has not completed possession is defenseless. If they have completed possession, by the rule of "possession", you shouldn't call defenseless rec.
    The rules just added last year, made a rec that catches a pass still defines as defenseless gaining outrage by defense.

    Also answer what made him as a ball carrier not subject to the helmet to helmet hit



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    Re: Hawkeye11en1 with your interpretation of rules, what did you think of this play?

    Quote Originally Posted by CYcoFan View Post
    What makes him a ball carrier, as opposed to a Rec who catches a pass and is defenseless even if he has established possession.
    Quote Originally Posted by CYcoFan View Post
    The rules just added last year, made a rec that catches a pass still defines as defenseless gaining outrage by defense.

    Also answer what made him as a ball carrier not subject to the helmet to helmet hit
    ....
    NFL Communications - Definition of a Defenseless Player

    You will notice that a kick or punt returner would fall under the "(4) A kickoff or punt returner attempting to field a kick in the air;" clause. And Cribbs was not "attempting to field a kick in the air" at the time of the hit.



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    Re: Hawkeye11en1 with your interpretation of rules, what did you think of this play?

    Quote Originally Posted by CYcoFan View Post
    The rules just added last year, made a rec that catches a pass still defines as defenseless gaining outrage by defense.

    Also answer what made him as a ball carrier not subject to the helmet to helmet hit
    I saw elbow to helmet, as he falls to the ground. Something that happens nearly every play.

    As far as your first sentence, what is outrage?


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    Re: Hawkeye11en1 with your interpretation of rules, what did you think of this play?

    Let cycofan fail again, it's quite fun.


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    Re: Hawkeye11en1 with your interpretation of rules, what did you think of this play?

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    Re: Hawkeye11en1 with your interpretation of rules, what did you think of this play?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordanj6502 View Post
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    NFL Communications - Definition of a Defenseless Player

    You will notice that a kick or punt returner would fall under the "(4) A kickoff or punt returner attempting to field a kick in the air;" clause. And Cribbs was not "attempting to field a kick in the air" at the time of the hit.

    Thank you Not Hawkeye11en1 this describes why the rec who catches a pass could still be a defenseless player.


    However. A helmet to helmet hit can be called on a ball carrier. The exception here is that the player was being tackled. He was not defenseless, nor was it an illegal shot.

    This is how I watch every game, by knowing the rules.



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    Re: Hawkeye11en1 with your interpretation of rules, what did you think of this play?

    Quote Originally Posted by CYcoFan View Post
    Thank you Not Hawkeye11en1 this describes why the rec who catches a pass could still be a defenseless player.


    However. A helmet to helmet hit can be called on a ball carrier. The exception here is that the player was being tackled. He was not defenseless, nor was it an illegal shot.

    This is how I watch every game, by knowing the rules.
    Wait, so you are saying I was wrong and yet I was right?


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    Re: Hawkeye11en1 with your interpretation of rules, what did you think of this play?

    Quote Originally Posted by CYcoFan View Post
    Thank you Not Hawkeye11en1 this describes why the rec who catches a pass could still be a defenseless player.


    However. A helmet to helmet hit can be called on a ball carrier. The exception here is that the player was being tackled. He was not defenseless, nor was it an illegal shot.

    This is how I watch every game, by knowing the rules.
    Wait, what!?



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    Re: Hawkeye11en1 with your interpretation of rules, what did you think of this play?

    Note the ball carrier was not DOWN, nor was the play over. So spearing or unnecessary roughness are not fouls that apply



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    Re: Hawkeye11en1 with your interpretation of rules, what did you think of this play?

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