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    Jarvis West Watch: Unleash This Beast

    "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain

    I am like many of you: I love Jarvis West. He's a small, fast, and shifty weapon, and I hope we continue to recruit to keep a couple of wide receivers in that model on the roster into the future. He's an exciting player to watch, and he's certainly a great guy to have returning kicks. Every time he touches the ball you can't help but think he might take it to the house.

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    We haven't seen him take it to the house yet (unless you want to include a penalized kick return in the Pinstripe Bowl). In fact, we haven't seen him take it more than 20 yards yet in a play from scrimmage, and he has been getting 3-5 touches per game consistently since we played Texas A&M last year. He's had some good kick returns, but I can't remember any getting into opposing territory (correct me if I'm wrong there). Am I the only one curious why this is?

    I honestly have no idea. Maybe he needs to commit to running up field sooner. Maybe he's more focused on breaking a guy's ankles than getting past him (which really are two different things). Maybe it's just bad luck that the last guy who can possibly get him every play ends up stopping him.

    What I do know, though, is that we need more big plays. As much as Steele Jantz is capable of, I don't necessarily want him chucking the ball deep constantly to generate that because of his penchant for turning the ball over. We need some wide receivers to step up to make things happen with the ball in his hands, and I think Jarvis West is just the guy to do it.

    Am I expecting too much from him, or are you guys starting to get a little impatient, too?



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    Re: Jarvis West Watch: Unleash This Beast

    He's what.. a sophomore? Way too early to get worried about it.



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    Re: Jarvis West Watch: Unleash This Beast

    It would be amazing to see him break one, or several, for a long TD, but he is young and I'm guessing will get his share of highlights before his career at ISU is over. I'm not worried about it yet



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    Re: Jarvis West Watch: Unleash This Beast

    he is certainly a weapon that needs to be used. I think he lacks top speed though, and that probably hurts him from getting those big plays. Great top speed in 5'7" guys isn't that prevalent. Quickness- absolutely.



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    Re: Jarvis West Watch: Unleash This Beast

    I think the only thing holding him back from getting more long returns is that he is more of a quick player than a fast player. Honestly, he is a good kick returner and can make people miss, but a lot of times kick returns that go to the house are a result of hitting a gap hard and at full speed and then making one or two hard cuts and sprinting to the endzone.

    EDIT: This is also why I love seeing Nealy back there to return kicks. I don't think we really know what kind of top end speed he has, but he has very good elusiveness and if he ends up having good top end speed he could be a very good returner for us.

    I wish we would see West return punts, which is where ridiculous elusiveness and quickness is the most important. However, I guess the coaching staff us more confident with Lenz and Horne back there to catch it.



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    Re: Jarvis West Watch: Unleash This Beast

    Let me JaHarvis make highlight reel!


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    Re: Jarvis West Watch: Unleash This Beast

    How Coach?



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    Re: Jarvis West Watch: Unleash This Beast

    The last two coaching staff before this, I'd swear that we fumbled 50% of our punt returns.
    This administration has looked solid in that area from day one. Leave them alone.



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    Re: Jarvis West Watch: Unleash This Beast

    Quick but in a shorter stride. Would be a good "go to guy" in a spread offense with corners playing tight at the line for physical bump and run coverage. Quick enough to get around contact attempt at the line with sideline pass between corner and safety or a slant in same coverage. Which they used vs Iowa and he was shoestring tackled around the redzone. But I doubt he will outrun Big 12 corners or safeties out in the open.



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    Re: Jarvis West Watch: Unleash This Beast

    By the end of the season, Jarvis West will be one of the stars of this team.



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    Re: Jarvis West Watch: Unleash This Beast

    The guy just looks like a big time play every time he gets the ball and then goes 5 yards. I could be that he just has not had enough touches, but he does get tackled pretty easy, so maybe it is just a matter of just getting a little stronger, to break the arm tackles.



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    Re: Jarvis West Watch: Unleash This Beast

    Quote Originally Posted by Sloup View Post
    "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain

    I am like many of you: I love Jarvis West. He's a small, fast, and shifty weapon, and I hope we continue to recruit to keep a couple of wide receivers in that model on the roster into the future. He's an exciting player to watch, and he's certainly a great guy to have returning kicks. Every time he touches the ball you can't help but think he might take it to the house.

    BUT

    We haven't seen him take it to the house yet (unless you want to include a penalized kick return in the Pinstripe Bowl). In fact, we haven't seen him take it more than 20 yards yet in a play from scrimmage, and he has been getting 3-5 touches per game consistently since we played Texas A&M last year. He's had some good kick returns, but I can't remember any getting into opposing territory (correct me if I'm wrong there). Am I the only one curious why this is?

    I honestly have no idea. Maybe he needs to commit to running up field sooner. Maybe he's more focused on breaking a guy's ankles than getting past him (which really are two different things). Maybe it's just bad luck that the last guy who can possibly get him every play ends up stopping him.

    What I do know, though, is that we need more big plays. As much as Steele Jantz is capable of, I don't necessarily want him chucking the ball deep constantly to generate that because of his penchant for turning the ball over. We need some wide receivers to step up to make things happen with the ball in his hands, and I think Jarvis West is just the guy to do it.

    Am I expecting too much from him, or are you guys starting to get a little impatient, too?
    At the UNI game last year Jantz missed him WIDE OPEN for about a 60 yd TD. Everyone in the upper deck of the student section saw it.

    It'll come. West is too fast to not have it happen. I suspect when Horne leaves we'll see even more production out of West in the slot since they play similarly.



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    Re: Jarvis West Watch: Unleash This Beast

    Aaron Horne is our small man big play guy, can we have 2?


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    Re: Jarvis West Watch: Unleash This Beast

    Our receiving corps is well................................not very threatening.



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