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    ESPN Big 12 Log - Bowl Projections

    This Ubben guy doesn't seem to give ISU much cred yet. Some interesting debate in comment section on ISU - TTU game.

    Big 12 bowl projections: Week 4 - Big 12 Blog - ESPN



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    Re: ESPN Big 12 Log - Bowl Projections

    Just be happy in what directions we are headed. Stop complaining about not being respected, it comes with be a cyclone. Until we constantly win 8-9 regular season games, nobody will care about us. But being a cyclone we know where we used to be at and where CPR wants to take us. Enjoy the ride, I am tired of these stupid non respect threads.



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    Re: ESPN Big 12 Log - Bowl Projections

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone2001 View Post
    Just be happy in what directions we are headed. Stop complaining about not being respected, it comes with be a cyclone. Until we constantly win 8-9 regular season games, nobody will care about us. But being a cyclone we know where we used to be at and where CPR wants to take us. Enjoy the ride, I am tired of these stupid non respect threads.
    Sorry for your frustration friend. The post was intended to pass along an opinion piece and highlight the discussion on the up-coming ISU-TTU game for entertainment sake.

    Yes, like most of what's on the internet, it's meaningless conjecture and speculation parading as news.



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    Re: ESPN Big 12 Log - Bowl Projections

    Tech thinks their defense is pretty stout eh?


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    Re: ESPN Big 12 Log - Bowl Projections

    DU only watches Texas, OU, and WVU games... and reads the AP recap on KSU.

    Only looks at scores for the rest so he is really uninformed.




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    Re: ESPN Big 12 Log - Bowl Projections

    Quote Originally Posted by CLONECONES View Post
    DU only watches Texas, OU, and WVU games... and reads the AP recap on KSU.

    Only looks at scores for the rest so he is really uninformed.

    So, what's his message board handle?



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    Re: ESPN Big 12 Log - Bowl Projections

    Ubben seems to value offense above defense, so I'd say that's why he has us so low. He doesn't think we'll be able to win in the Big XII without scoring 30+ points a game.



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    Re: ESPN Big 12 Log - Bowl Projections

    Quote Originally Posted by Rural View Post
    So, what's his message board handle?
    Believe it's Cyber.



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    Re: ESPN Big 12 Log - Bowl Projections

    Dude's a complete idiot to think WVU is going to win Big 12.



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    Re: ESPN Big 12 Log - Bowl Projections

    Quote Originally Posted by ShopTalk View Post
    Dude's a complete idiot to think WVU is going to win Big 12.
    Have you watched the first 3 weeks? Not saying WVU is a lock but they have to be the first or second favorite right now...PLENTY of people (including me) think they have a good shot at the Big 12 title.



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    Re: ESPN Big 12 Log - Bowl Projections

    Ubben always favors the southern teams. There is no legitimate reason for putting TT ahead of us. We have beat better teams this year, had a better season last year and pummeled them 2 year in a row. But, since they have destroyed the juggernauts of Texas St, Northwestern St, and New Mexico, Ubben thinks they are better.



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    Re: ESPN Big 12 Log - Bowl Projections

    Quote Originally Posted by theCyBooty View Post
    had a better season last year and pummeled them 2 year in a row.
    So by that logic, we never should have expected to beat Iowa last year after getting crushed 35-3 and 35-7 the prior two years, especially with them having much better records both prior years?



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    Re: ESPN Big 12 Log - Bowl Projections

    Quote Originally Posted by cycloneworld View Post
    Have you watched the first 3 weeks? Not saying WVU is a lock but they have to be the first or second favorite right now...PLENTY of people (including me) think they have a good shot at the Big 12 title.
    Have you seen the two teams they've played? A good FCS team in James Madison and a bad non-BCS team in Marshall. Of course they look amazing right now. They haven't played a team with a pulse!



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    Re: ESPN Big 12 Log - Bowl Projections

    I've got no problems with it. I disagree with his opinion, but I can see where he's coming from.

    Regarding the non-conference schedule he's said he doesn't see Iowa as a very good team and that Tulsa may have been our toughest non-conference opponent. So while we had a (in his mind) slightly tougher non-conference schedule, we didn't look as good completing it.

    Also, when a good offense meets a good defense in the Big 12, history tells us the offense usually wins. So I can't fault him for thinking Texas Tech will win the game because their offense has looked so much better.

    Either way, he's said whoever wins the game will own a spot in the bowl projections. So just win baby!



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    Re: ESPN Big 12 Log - Bowl Projections

    Quote Originally Posted by cycloneworld View Post
    Have you watched the first 3 weeks? Not saying WVU is a lock but they have to be the first or second favorite right now...PLENTY of people (including me) think they have a good shot at the Big 12 title.
    Massey has ISU beating WVU to finish the season. Here's the link to his latest probabilities for WVU:

    Massey Ratings - West Virginia University

    And I repeat: Ubben's an idiot thinking WVU is going to win B12 this year.



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