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    Thumbs up Dan McCarney and the Mean Green

    I'm watching a recording of McCarney's game against KSU yesterday. Am very impressed and cannot help but notice the similarities with ISU. They really play hard and successfully knocked the ball out of a KSU RB's hands when he was approaching the goal line. One guy stands him up and the others swing at the ball. Recognized one of their coaches from his days at ISU but can't think of his name. They have a really good freshman RB named Jimmerson.

    Was shocked to learn that he has gone blind in his right eye and is now sporting a glass eye and must wear sun glasses from some event that occurred at Florida. He still roams the sidelines like he did at ISU. Love the guy, but I can't think of a worse job for a man who is post stroke.

    Will be fun to see how high he can take these guys.

    Good luck Dan.



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    Re: Dan McCarney and the Mean Green

    There are those that will talk the man down for a supposed lack of aggression in his coaching style at ISU, but I've got nothing but respect for the man and what he did for ISU. Sure, he didn't bring us all the way back, but he did lift us out of a huge hole. The man is class, and I've got a healthy dose of disdain for anyone who says otherwise.


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    Re: Dan McCarney and the Mean Green

    I think almost any Cyclone fan who watched through the 80's and early 90's have a great appreciation for what he accomplished here.



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    Re: Dan McCarney and the Mean Green

    Quote Originally Posted by klamath632 View Post
    There are those that will talk the man down for a supposed lack of aggression in his coaching style at ISU, but I've got nothing but respect for the man and what he did for ISU. Sure, he didn't bring us all the way back, but he did lift us out of a huge hole. The man is class, and I've got a healthy dose of disdain for anyone who says otherwise.
    He did a lot for ISU and is a good coach. But I don't think you can say a guy who beat his wife for years, including in front of their kids, has so much as an ounce of "class".



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    Re: Dan McCarney and the Mean Green

    I suspect he will get better recruits as time goes on. North Texas can get better.


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    Re: Dan McCarney and the Mean Green

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonepride View Post
    I think almost any Cyclone fan who watched through the 80's and early 90's have a great appreciation for what he accomplished here.
    A lot of the folks that wanted him run, still loved the guy. I'm more or less in this boat (though I thought we owed one more year). A great coach Sunday through Friday...I just wish he was a bit different on game day.

    I've been paying attention to North Texas only because of him...very glad he's doing well.



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    Re: Dan McCarney and the Mean Green

    Quote Originally Posted by Judoka View Post
    He did a lot for ISU and is a good coach. But I don't think you can say a guy who beat his wife for years, including in front of their kids, has so much as an ounce of "class".
    Well, now we know what username Jim Walden comments under.


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    Re: Dan McCarney and the Mean Green

    Quote Originally Posted by CYlent Bob View Post
    Well, now we know what username Jim Walden comments under.
    Well, 7 posts before Jim Walden gets thrown under the bus by the McCarney crowd. It usually happens within the first 5 posts. You guys are slipping up.


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    Re: Dan McCarney and the Mean Green

    Quote Originally Posted by SpunOut View Post
    I'm watching a recording of McCarney's game against KSU yesterday. Am very impressed and cannot help but notice the similarities with ISU. They really play hard and successfully knocked the ball out of a KSU RB's hands when he was approaching the goal line. One guy stands him up and the others swing at the ball. Recognized one of their coaches from his days at ISU but can't think of his name. They have a really good freshman RB named Jimmerson.

    Was shocked to learn that he has gone blind in his right eye and is now sporting a glass eye and must wear sun glasses from some event that occurred at Florida. He still roams the sidelines like he did at ISU. Love the guy, but I can't think of a worse job for a man who is post stroke.

    Will be fun to see how high he can take these guys.

    Good luck Dan.
    Appears that he also continued the similarity of losing, just like he did when at ISU.



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    Re: Dan McCarney and the Mean Green

    Quote Originally Posted by jbhtexas View Post
    Well, 7 posts before Jim Walden gets thrown under the bus by the McCarney crowd. It usually happens within the first 5 posts. You guys are slipping up.
    Mac's first three years at ISU don't count and as a result his record is way better than Waldens.



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    Re: Dan McCarney and the Mean Green

    Quote Originally Posted by Prometheus View Post
    Mac's first three years at ISU don't count and as a result his record is way better than Waldens.
    Number of bowls made under McCarney: 5

    Number of bowls made under Walden: 0
    Number of bowls made under Walden (if there were as many bowls then as there are now): 1 - 1989 Walden's team went 6-5.

    Sorry, Walden apologists - Walden may have the better record, but he's nowhere close to being the better coach. Doesn't matter though - Rhoads is heads and shoulders above BOTH of them - and all three of them are/were better than Chizik.


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    Re: Dan McCarney and the Mean Green

    Quote Originally Posted by klamath632 View Post
    There are those that will talk the man down for a supposed lack of aggression in his coaching style at ISU, but I've got nothing but respect for the man and what he did for ISU. Sure, he didn't bring us all the way back, but he did lift us out of a huge hole. The man is class, and I've got a healthy dose of disdain for anyone who says otherwise.
    Bring us back? To what? What heights were we at before Dan to which he needed to "bring us back?"

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    Now, you can definitely argue that he couldn't take the next step. That is fair. Too many missed field goals separating us from conference division titles. ISU football owes a lot to Dan. We were on the brink of football irrelevance.

    And I was one of those supporting the change. I was even excited about the Chizz being hired. So that shows what I know.



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    Re: Dan McCarney and the Mean Green

    Rhoads is building off what Dan McCarney started. McCarney gave the fan base a solid foundation and his work at Iowa State should never be discounted. That 2005 team was probably one of the best ISU football teams to date. That was McCarney's year to go the distance. I still get agitated when I think about all those plays that could have gone the other way and ISU would have been in the Big12 Title game. Texas probably would have beaten us pretty bad, but it wouldn't have been the 70-3 beating Colorado took.


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    Re: Dan McCarney and the Mean Green

    Quote Originally Posted by im4cyclones View Post
    Bring us back? To what? What heights were we at before Dan to which he needed to "bring us back?"

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    2000 9-3 and 1st ever bowl victory

    Now, you can definitely argue that he couldn't take the next step. That is fair. Too many missed field goals separating us from conference division titles. ISU football owes a lot to Dan. We were on the brink of football irrelevance.

    And I was one of those supporting the change. I was even excited about the Chizz being hired. So that shows what I know.
    Walden v. Mac...an old fashioned flame war that never gets old. Wait...yes it does.

    I think they were both average to above average coaches that suffered from a lack of institutional support, football tradition, and top notch ADs. Thank God we're in a better place now.



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    Re: Dan McCarney and the Mean Green

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace000087 View Post
    Rhoads is building off what Dan McCarney started. McCarney gave the fan base a solid foundation and his work at Iowa State should never be discounted. That 2005 team was probably one of the best ISU football teams to date. That was McCarney's year to go the distance. I still get agitated when I think about all those plays that could have gone the other way and ISU would have been in the Big12 Title game. Texas probably would have beaten us pretty bad, but it wouldn't have been the 70-3 beating Colorado took.
    2005 was probably a major part of the reason why McCarney was fired. Had ISU taken care of business that season, we would have had a 10-2 team minimum, possibly 11-1. The defense was just outstanding (remember that Iowa game - Iowa never entered the red zone the entire game). The problem was the conservative game plan left the defense hanging out to dry far too often and as a result we lost a lot more games than we should have. Didn't live up to expectations in 2006 either, but 2005 was ISU's one real chance at glory and they quite literally dropped the ball.


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