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    Re: Channel Seed Podcast: ND/ACC, play calling, WIU & more

    Good job Chris. But the reason we're upset with Messingham is not that he is being conservative, but stupid.

    1. The safety against Tulsa was "stupid" as Rhoads put it. Play took too long.

    2. Right before the second half of the Iowa game, we needed 10-15 yards for a nice field goal. A field goal puts us up 2 scores going into half. Mess got the death stare from Rhoads if you were watching closely. Rhoads was not happy at all.

    3. Mess should have called timeout before Jantz's pick in the endzone. There were 8 defenders in the endzone before the snap.

    Those are just examples from my untrained eye.

    Mess needs to be up in the press box.



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    Re: Channel Seed Podcast: ND/ACC, play calling, WIU & more

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    Good job Chris. But the reason we're upset with Messingham is not that he is being conservative, but stupid.

    1. The safety against Tulsa was "stupid" as Rhoads put it. Play took too long.

    2. Right before the second half of the Iowa game, we needed 10-15 yards for a nice field goal. A field goal puts us up 2 scores going into half. Mess got the death stare from Rhoads if you were watching closely. Rhoads was not happy at all.

    3. Mess should have called timeout before Jantz's pick in the endzone. There were 8 defenders in the endzone before the snap.

    Those are just examples from my untrained eye.

    Mess needs to be up in the press box.
    I would have gone deep once there but not twice. Even so if you watch the tape back, I'm pretty sure Steele had the TE (going off of memory) wide open for 10-12 yards but chose to chuck it. We can agree to disagree. Give the guy some time. It was the second game of his career. I've got a lot of confidence in Courtney.



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    Re: Channel Seed Podcast: ND/ACC, play calling, WIU & more

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUonthemove View Post
    Good job Chris. But the reason we're upset with Messingham is not that he is being conservative, but stupid.

    1. The safety against Tulsa was "stupid" as Rhoads put it. Play took too long.

    2. Right before the second half of the Iowa game, we needed 10-15 yards for a nice field goal. A field goal puts us up 2 scores going into half. Mess got the death stare from Rhoads if you were watching closely. Rhoads was not happy at all.

    3. Mess should have called timeout before Jantz's pick in the endzone. There were 8 defenders in the endzone before the snap.

    Those are just examples from my untrained eye.

    Mess needs to be up in the press box.
    To address #3. That was a similar play to what Brun scored on against Tulsa and Brun was open once again.

    And no Mess does not need to be in the press box, it's easier to communicate with the players by being on the sidelines. Plus they have enough capable coaches already in the press box to relay info to Mess.



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    Re: Channel Seed Podcast: ND/ACC, play calling, WIU & more

    Probably a dumb question, but is it still possible to subscribe to these podcasts on iTunes? I was subscribed previously, but it hasn't updated since May.



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    Re: Channel Seed Podcast: ND/ACC, play calling, WIU & more

    I think a lot of the redzone issues were the result of good Iowa defense. They've always been good inside the 20s and they killed the run everywhere in the second half.

    If this team can find an offensive identity, particularly in the RZ, it will help. Also having a healthy Woody to bulldoze inside the 20s or act as a decoy for PA passes will deffinitely help.


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    Re: Channel Seed Podcast: ND/ACC, play calling, WIU & more

    Chris you point out that we ran some deep passes but I'm willing to bet that 80% of our offensive plays in the second half were zone reads or QB draws or simple off tacke. We played DMAC style and not to lose. We made the decision at half that our defense was going to win the game and not our offense to lose it.

    The play calling was masterful the first half. The second half was predictable and McCarney like. You pointed out the only 5 pass plays. What about the other 20?



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    Re: Channel Seed Podcast: ND/ACC, play calling, WIU & more

    Quote Originally Posted by Nuts4Cy View Post
    Chris you point out that we ran some deep passes but I'm willing to bet that 80% of our offensive plays in the second half were zone reads or QB draws or simple off tacke. We played DMAC style and not to lose. We made the decision at half that our defense was going to win the game and not our offense to lose it.

    The play calling was masterful the first half. The second half was predictable and McCarney like. You pointed out the only 5 pass plays. What about the other 20?
    Don't know about specific play calls but according to the box score, Iowa State ran the ball 20 times in the second half and attempted 13 passes. Two of those rushes were when Iowa State was in the "Victory" formation at the end. So really that ratio was 18 runs to 13 passes.



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    Re: Channel Seed Podcast: ND/ACC, play calling, WIU & more

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams View Post
    Don't know about specific play calls but according to the box score, Iowa State ran the ball 20 times in the second half and attempted 13 passes. Two of those rushes were when Iowa State was in the "Victory" formation at the end. So really that ratio was 18 runs to 13 passes.
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    Re: Channel Seed Podcast: ND/ACC, play calling, WIU & more

    Quote Originally Posted by Nuts4Cy View Post
    Chris you point out that we ran some deep passes but I'm willing to bet that 80% of our offensive plays in the second half were zone reads or QB draws or simple off tacke. We played DMAC style and not to lose. We made the decision at half that our defense was going to win the game and not our offense to lose it.

    The play calling was masterful the first half. The second half was predictable and McCarney like. You pointed out the only 5 pass plays. What about the other 20?
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