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    offensive play calling in the second half

    is it just me or was the play calling in the second half against EICC a little too conservative or lack there of illogical? I know Messingham is still getting used to the offense, but go with what works. the RUN GAME.



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    Re: offensive play calling in the second half

    Mess went to what worked in week 1, but Iowa's defense sniffed out the zone read, and we weren't able to throw around that stacked box.

    Jantz was missing receivers....


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    Re: offensive play calling in the second half

    I would have liked to see more straight up the gut handoffs as opposed to zone read. Seems as though the outside would be a strength with their lbs, while their d line was supposed to be weak. Of course, their defense was jacked up, and we weren't creating the same holes that had been there.



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    Re: offensive play calling in the second half

    O-Line didn't push worth a damn in the 2nd half.


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    Re: offensive play calling in the second half

    I agree with the OP, but I think Steele's bad decisions also made the play calling look worse.



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    Re: offensive play calling in the second half

    unfortunately, the second half reminded me of the bowl game, Iowa sent a lot of guys around the edge just like in the bowl game, and ISU did not respond well. Need to figure out a way to attack the middle of the defenses or the off tackle quickly rather than the delay zone read. The coaches will figure it out. This team has a lot of talent, they just need to figure out how to attack a defense better. Completing a couple long passes would have been a great help yesterday.



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    Re: offensive play calling in the second half

    I think it really was a combination of factors. Mess was awfully conservative most the time but that wasn't really the problem, we weren't executing on ANYTHING. The O-line didn't get the push they were in the first half (for whatever reason). And Jantz just missed on a couple of throws. It's hard to see on TV what route the receivers are running but it didn't look like there was a lot of space in the secondary and he didn't force (too) many throws. Also, imagine if one of those long balls had been on the money, it would've been a lot different game. He was really close on a few of them and he erred on the side that didn't result in a INT (long). Overall it wasn't pretty but I think a week against an inferior opponent and then a week off will be a huuuuuuge benefit for the offense.



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    Re: offensive play calling in the second half

    I wonder how much turnovers in the red zone affected our play calling and execution. It was weird to be moving the ball with quite a bit of success, but still having to play like it was a close game.



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    Re: offensive play calling in the second half

    There were lanes inside but the RB's were kicking it outside. Don't know if this was by design or RB's decision. When they were kicking it outside the tackles didn't maintain there blocks.. Also Iowa was stacking the box so there was an extra defender. This left man coverage on some WR's but Jantz misses those shots down field so the offense couldn't make Iowa's D pay for putting that safety in the box.



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    Re: offensive play calling in the second half

    I dont know if its the play calling or not making the yards on 1st down. It just seems they are limited to what they do on 2nd and 3rd and 8 or more. The 2nd and 3rd qtrs vs Tulsa and 1st and 2nd vs Iowa Mess called outstanding. The other qtrs not so much. Its almost like he has a plan in his head this will set this up and then we will go to this and this and this, but when one of those doesnt work he is not sure what to do. I also think they need quicker to develop running plays, screw the QB RB zoneread, give the RB the ball and let him find his spots quick.


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    Re: offensive play calling in the second half

    The run game?

    We ran on first down all but two times. We averaged 2 ypc on 40 attempts. We ran to much and were to predictable

    Problem was that we went from a spread to a two tight end set for some reason and we had zero success with it



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    Re: offensive play calling in the second half

    Quote Originally Posted by SEclone View Post
    is it just me or was the play calling in the second half against EICC a little too conservative or lack there of illogical? I know Messingham is still getting used to the offense, but go with what works. the RUN GAME.
    Like the run game isn't conservative? I think you would have seen more diverse playcalling if we could simply get a first down and get into any kind of rhythm.



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    Re: offensive play calling in the second half

    The scripted plays on the first drive were incredible. The second half was terrible, I hope we can get this figured out.



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    Re: offensive play calling in the second half

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Like the run game isn't conservative? I think you would have seen more diverse playcalling if we could simply get a first down and get into any kind of rhythm.
    i agree. i meant to say the run game, but not the east to west running we did with zone read, it was just taking too long to develop and the rb's kept going outside when the gaps up the middle were there. also i think that those throws that jantz missed deep will come with more reps. completing at least one of them changes the way the iowa d plays instead of filling the box.



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    Re: offensive play calling in the second half

    i just see all of this raw talent on the field that i hope we can expose and use. not a lot of people know what we have in ames this season. hope its shown in weeks to come.



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