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    So because a cop some where padded his citations we get rid of them? In that case just get rid of all laws because I would bet tha other officers have at sometime given citations when one was not required.



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    Re: More traffic/speed camera news

    No we get rid of them because the public thinks its an invation of privacy and a money grab. Which it is. The only people who want them are police departments and government who r trying to claim they are for safety.


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    Re: More traffic/speed camera news

    Quote Originally Posted by Knownothing View Post
    No we get rid of them because the public thinks its an invation of privacy and a money grab. Which it is. The only people who want them are police departments and government who r trying to claim they are for safety.

    So do you also feel we need to get rid of ALL security cameras every where? If these are an invasion so are all the thousands of other ones in the country. As to the saftey issue the one closest to my home has been a saftey factor, since it was installed there has not been an accident at the intersection. Before we had at leats three a year, one with a fatality so it has made people think twice about running the red light.



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    Re: More traffic/speed camera news

    Quote Originally Posted by Knownothing
    No we get rid of them because the public thinks its an invation of privacy and a money grab.
    So the public thinks they are on private property when they are driving on the interstate in a city?



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    Re: More traffic/speed camera news

    No the public thinks the government shouldn't he filming them in public. Obviously kcdc is in some sort of position to reap the benifit from these cameras because studies show the stop light cameras actually cause a lot of accidents. Also the only time people slow down is when they go by them. Then spead right back up. Fact. So how does that help safety.


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    Re: More traffic/speed camera news

    This has nothing to do with cops padding their citations. This is a case where a sensitive piece of equipment needed to be calibrated to ensure that it's working properly, and the officer in charge falsified his calibrations and "phoned it in".

    Admittedly, the DC police department is one of the worst in the country, so tarring all other departments with the same brush is unfair. What this illustrates is when enforcement is put on "autopilot" and cameras & computers are tasked with issuing tickets, mistakes can and will happen. Worse than that, fraud can and will happen.


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    Re: More traffic/speed camera news

    Quote Originally Posted by kcdc4isu View Post
    So do you also feel we need to get rid of ALL security cameras every where? If these are an invasion so are all the thousands of other ones in the country. As to the saftey issue the one closest to my home has been a saftey factor, since it was installed there has not been an accident at the intersection. Before we had at leats three a year, one with a fatality so it has made people think twice about running the red light.
    I have a feeling people would have less of a problem with the red light cameras if they did as the speed ones do and gave a bit of leeway. The speed ones (currently) only ticket for over 10 over.. the red light cameras get good money from those who may have only committed the heinous offense of not coming to a complete stop (despite the fact that they could clearly assess the safety of entering the intersection without doing so)



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    Re: More traffic/speed camera news

    Quote Originally Posted by CYlent Bob View Post
    This has nothing to do with cops padding their citations. This is a case where a sensitive piece of equipment needed to be calibrated to ensure that it's working properly, and the officer in charge falsified his calibrations and "phoned it in".

    Admittedly, the DC police department is one of the worst in the country, so tarring all other departments with the same brush is unfair. What this illustrates is when enforcement is put on "autopilot" and cameras & computers are tasked with issuing tickets, mistakes can and will happen. Worse than that, fraud can and will happen.
    This. It's no different than vending machines that won't accept a dollar bill that's "too wrinkled". A human being can recognize that piece of linen paper is legitimate currency. A machine can't.


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    Re: More traffic/speed camera news

    Quote Originally Posted by Knownothing View Post
    No the public thinks the government shouldn't he filming them in public. Obviously kcdc is in some sort of position to reap the benifit from these cameras because studies show the stop light cameras actually cause a lot of accidents. Also the only time people slow down is when they go by them. Then spead right back up. Fact. So how does that help safety.
    The put the cameras up where speeding causes problems. In Cedar Rapids, speeding north and south of the city isn't a big deal. The road is pretty straight and speeding doesn't cause a big safety concern. However, in town over the S-curve the road tightens and is a big safety hazard for speeding. Thats why they added the cameras.



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    Re: More traffic/speed camera news

    Quote Originally Posted by clone52 View Post
    The put the cameras up where speeding causes problems. In Cedar Rapids, speeding north and south of the city isn't a big deal. The road is pretty straight and speeding doesn't cause a big safety concern. However, in town over the S-curve the road tightens and is a big safety hazard for speeding. Thats why they added the cameras.
    I dont think the speeding on 235 has caused problems though. After rebuilding it the thing is so much wider and smoother, it would be perfectly safe to have higher speed limits (judging by the fact traffic is going higher speeds anyways). And that's where the money grab complaint comes in.. the fact is these aren't just put in places where there are problems. Also look at what windsor heights wanted to do, putting in cameras where there were no speed-related issues (most issues there are related to poor design\interchanges too close together)



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    Re: More traffic/speed camera news

    We are one step away from building Gort or employing a team of Robocops to cast a giant net.

    Anything to keep us safe right? Anything to make the public obey

    We don't have privacy. The government has taken it away and we've let them in the name of safety



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    Re: More traffic/speed camera news

    I rarely speed and never run red lights. If I happen to get caught speeding, I will accept the consequences and pay the fine. Whether I am caught by human or android. I have no objection to traffic cameras. And last time I checked, I am part of the public.



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    Re: More traffic/speed camera news

    Quote Originally Posted by Knownothing View Post
    No the public thinks the government shouldn't he filming them in public. Obviously kcdc is in some sort of position to reap the benifit from these cameras because studies show the stop light cameras actually cause a lot of accidents. Also the only time people slow down is when they go by them. Then spead right back up. Fact. So how does that help safety.
    To set the record straight, I have NO connection to city goverment or the companies that own the cameras. So would you please answer the question I asked, "Should ALL cameras be banned as they all invade your privacy". I have found most only want the ones banned that show them breaking the law on the highways.



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    Re: More traffic/speed camera news

    These cameras are for boosting income and making the jobs of cops easier...they do not make the roads safer. The one on I235 makes people hit their brakes and go 10 under the speed limit causing more of a danger the other drivers



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