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    Most Over-rated MBB coach in U.S.

    Just thought this was kind of funny. Especially since it is college coaches doing the voting.

    Critical Coaches: Who is the most overrated coach in the country? - CBSSports.com


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    Re: Most Over-rated MBB coach in U.S.

    Rick Barnes (Texas): 17 percent
    Scott Drew (Baylor): 11 percent


    yup




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    Re: Most Over-rated MBB coach in U.S.

    I've always liked Barnes but I gotta admit he is a lot like Mack Brown. If you look at their support, facilities, and recruiting classes, they should be sniffing at National Championships on a regular basis.



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    Re: Most Over-rated MBB coach in U.S.

    this cbs feature is outstanding - the comments from coaches are fantastic.

    On Jay Wright: "I'll tell you this about Villanova and Jay Wright. In all our prep over the years, he's the only coach we never prepared a scouting report for."



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    Re: Most Over-rated MBB coach in U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by CLONECONES View Post
    Rick Barnes (Texas): 17 percent
    Scott Drew (Baylor): 11 percent


    yup
    While it is easy and everyone likes to pile on Drew for his in-game coaching ability (I understand where you are coming from), lets not forget that he took a historically terrible program and made them into a basketball power. Barely anyone has turned a program around as well and as quickly as he has (even with some of his questionable tactics). Therefore, I don't think he deserves to be in any unrated category as one shouldn't have such high expectations for a Baylor coach. Maybe my definition of overrated doesn't quite match with other's definition too. In my mind, Rick Barnes is the more overrated coach as he has has produced lukewarm results at arguably one of the easiest schools to succeed at possible. He also gets paid a lot to do it too.



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    Re: Most Over-rated MBB coach in U.S.

    Couldn't agree more about Barnes. Everyone knows that Drew is overrated (which maybe doesn't make him overrated), but Barnes should have a program that rivals Kansas.



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    Re: Most Over-rated MBB coach in U.S.

    How is Sean Miller not on this list? He has had awesome recruiting classes in the worst power conference( if you can even all them that anymore) and still can't get consistent Ws.



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    Re: Most Over-rated MBB coach in U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by LostinIowaCity View Post
    Couldn't agree more about Barnes. Everyone knows that Drew is overrated (which maybe doesn't make him overrated), but Barnes should have a program that rivals Kansas.
    I closely agree with that. IMHO it's going to be tough to rival Kansas while Self is there, I think he is 'pound for pound' in the top 3 best coaches in the country.
    I think Texas should always be contending for that number 2 spot.



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    Re: Most Over-rated MBB coach in U.S.

    I honestly don't know why Barnes is still at Texas, mainly for the reason many of you are pointing out. With his resources and the recruits he gets, how is he not contending for at least a Big 12 title every year



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    Re: Most Over-rated MBB coach in U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by brett108 View Post
    How is Sean Miller not on this list? He has had awesome recruiting classes in the worst power conference( if you can even all them that anymore) and still can't get consistent Ws.
    Because Ben Howland is worse.



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    Re: Most Over-rated MBB coach in U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Triggermv View Post
    While it is easy and everyone likes to pile on Drew for his in-game coaching ability (I understand where you are coming from), lets not forget that he took a historically terrible program and made them into a basketball power. Barely anyone has turned a program around as well and as quickly as he has (even with some of his questionable tactics). Therefore, I don't think he deserves to be in any unrated category as one shouldn't have such high expectations for a Baylor coach. Maybe my definition of overrated doesn't quite match with other's definition too. In my mind, Rick Barnes is the more overrated coach as he has has produced lukewarm results at arguably one of the easiest schools to succeed at possible. He also gets paid a lot to do it too.
    Baylor has signed somebody ranked in the top ten every year for the last 4 years. Currently they have a bunch of 2014 players listing them. Who would have ever thought Baylor would be able to recruit like that? The lack of coaching (letting them play) is also what he sells to the elite recruit. Seems to be working for him.



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    Quote Originally Posted by DistrictCyclone View Post
    Because Ben Howland is worse.
    If any conference deserves more than one coach on this list it is the PAC 12. The two most historically successful programs are not even making it to the tournament anymore. Miller has earned a place on this list IMO.



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    Re: Most Over-rated MBB coach in U.S.

    Barnes has been overrated for years. He has had so much talent and yet he competes to make the sweet 16. Self would have had several of those Texas teams in the final 4.
    Also Roy Boy has won a championship with other coaches talent. Not with his talent and he has the ultimate pool of players to work with.


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    Re: Most Over-rated MBB coach in U.S.

    I didn't even know that Jay Wright was considered a good coach.

    How is Ben Howland overrated? How many coaches this decade have taken a team to 3 straight Final Fours?

    And is Steve Lavin really considered a good coach? I've never thought of him as a good coach



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    I'm with the author on Williams' answer about recruiting. Interesting to hear Williams say he's not a great coach, just a good one who doesn't want to find out if he can win with less than stellar talent.


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