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    Interesting 2012 Recruit Rankings

    Sorry if this was posted earlier.

    Drew Cannon of Basketball Prospectus took a statistical look at all the ESPN ranked recruits who played in the 2011 Nike Elite Youth Basketball League

    Of the 48 ranked seniors Georges Niang is rated 6th, leaping over 22 players who ESPN had rated higher than him.

    Basketball Prospectus | Scouting the EYBL



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    Re: Interesting 2012 Recruit Rankings

    Nice, glad he gets a little more recognition even though it doesn't really matter at this point. He's happy to be a cyclone and we're happy to have him



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    Re: Interesting 2012 Recruit Rankings

    I have a great feeling about Niang. I'm also impressed by Fred's apparant eye for getting in on talented players early. Niang last year and now Matt Thomas. Sounds like a lot of the propects that we're recruiting for 2013 and 2014 are picking up a lot of steam, but fortunately we were in on them early....



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    Re: Interesting 2012 Recruit Rankings

    I have a great feeling about Niang. I'm also impressed by Fred's apparant eye for getting in on talented players early. Niang last year and now Matt Thomas. Sounds like a lot of the prospects that we're recruiting for 2013 and 2014 are picking up a lot of steam, but fortunately we were in on them early....



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    Re: Interesting 2012 Recruit Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by acgclone View Post
    I have a great feeling about Niang. I'm also impressed by Fred's apparant eye for getting in on talented players early. Niang last year and now Matt Thomas. Sounds like a lot of the prospects that we're recruiting for 2013 and 2014 are picking up a lot of steam, but fortunately we were in on them early....

    Color me impressed too, its actually kind of amazing with all the coaches and analysts out there that Fred finds guys like that first.



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    Re: Interesting 2012 Recruit Rankings

    Good find and thanks for posting.

    From what I've seen from Georges he has always impacted the game but isn't "flashy", just fundimental and very productive. Thus not given his fair due in the rankings in my opinion.
    Fortunately well be able to see if the metrics work and hopefully he'll have a very productive career in Cardinal and Gold.

    2012
    5. Georges Niang (No. 56, 448 MP, Iowa State)

    others of I saw that may be of interest...
    22. Adam Woodbury (No. 39, 418 MP, Iowa)
    33. Mike Gesell (No. 75, 549 MP, Iowa)


    Big XII
    20. Ricardo Gathers (No. 36, 553 MP, Baylor)
    44. Prince Ibeh (No. 59, 387 MP, Texas)
    48. L.J. Rose (No. 63, 578 MP, Baylor


    Last edited by LLCoolJansma; 08-01-2012 at 04:50 PM. Reason: added Georges Ranking

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    Re: Interesting 2012 Recruit Rankings

    Did Fred actually find them, or the assistant coaches?



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    Re: Interesting 2012 Recruit Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by CyberJJJ View Post
    Did Fred actually find them, or the assistant coaches?

    The coaching staff finds them and Fred seals the deal. Great team of coaches and wow its paying off. They are getting some of the best talent to Ames we have ever had. Make no mistake Fred is an outstanding recruiter himself. He is all over the place.



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    Re: Interesting 2012 Recruit Rankings

    Niang will be good. Hopefully he sticks around a couple years even if he doesn't have too.


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    Re: Interesting 2012 Recruit Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by Cycl1 View Post
    Niang will be good. Hopefully he sticks around a couple years even if he doesn't have too.
    LOL



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    Re: Interesting 2012 Recruit Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by kucyclone View Post
    LOL
    No kidding, I'm a huge Niang fan but what are ISU fans referring to Niang leaving early for? Completely baseless as of now.



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    Re: Interesting 2012 Recruit Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by Cycl1 View Post
    Niang will be good. Hopefully he sticks around a couple years even if he doesn't have too.
    The NBA drafts on two things above all others: size and potential. He's only 6'7" so that would be way undersized for the post in the NBA. In terms of potential, Niang can be a great, technically sound scorer but I think is already pretty close to his ceiling due to his average athleticism. Regardless, to even be talking about that is ridiculous before the guy has even played.



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    Re: Interesting 2012 Recruit Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by JCREEK View Post
    The coaching staff finds them and Fred seals the deal. Great team of coaches and wow its paying off. They are getting some of the best talent to Ames we have ever had. Make no mistake Fred is an outstanding recruiter himself. He is all over the place.
    Agreed JCREEK. I wasn't dissing on Fred, rather just addressing the "hero worship" that often erroneously gets attached to the head coaches. I love that Fred knew he needed recruiters as assistants, or he wouldn't have added Matt to his team who had basically no floor coaching experience. Tim Floyd told me he hated recruiting, but knew how to coach so he hired assistants that could recruit. I believe Fred has placed himself more directly in the recruiting deal, and at least with Matt Thomas, sounds like the lead recruiter.



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    Re: Interesting 2012 Recruit Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by Cincyclone View Post
    The NBA drafts on two things above all others: size and potential. He's only 6'7" so that would be way undersized for the post in the NBA. In terms of potential, Niang can be a great, technically sound scorer but I think is already pretty close to his ceiling due to his average athleticism. Regardless, to even be talking about that is ridiculous before the guy has even played.
    LOL! The guy is barely out of high school and you think he is close to his ceiling all ready. You do realize that players don't just develope physically after high school. Skill and experience count as well. What a ridiculous statement.



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    Re: Interesting 2012 Recruit Rankings

    Originally Posted by Cincyclone
    The NBA drafts on two things above all others: size and potential. He's only 6'7" so that would be way undersized for the post in the NBA. In terms of potential, Niang can be a great, technically sound scorer but I think is already pretty close to his ceiling due to his average athleticism. Regardless, to even be talking about that is ridiculous before the guy has even played.

    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCyd View Post
    LOL! The guy is barely out of high school and you think he is close to his ceiling all ready. You do realize that players don't just develope physically after high school. Skill and experience count as well. What a ridiculous statement.
    Agreed. A 17/18-year old kid is close to his ceiling? He hasn't even stepped onto a college court yet, let alone reached the age where he might stop growing.

    And how do we know he has average athleticism? We haven't seen him play a game yet so thre's no way any of us can possibly know that. Any high school kid that already has a few low-post moves and range out to 20 feet is considered pretty athletic to me.



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