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    Liriano traded to White Sox

    As a Twins fan, not sure how I feel...



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    Re:Liriano traded to White Sox

    What did they get in exchange?



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    Re: Liriano traded to White Sox

    A couple of el passes probably...



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    Re: Liriano traded to White Sox

    Quote Originally Posted by FDWxMan View Post
    A couple of el passes probably...
    White Sox trade infielder Eduardo Escobar and left-handed pitcher Pedro Hernandez to the Twins for left-handed starting pitcher Francisco Liriano



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    Re: Liriano traded to White Sox

    Eduardo Escobar and Pedro Hernandez

    Escobar, 23, has hit .202/.276/.247 in 99 plate appearances over the last two seasons while playing second, third, short, and left field. He's a .270/.315/.351 career hitter in the minors, and before the season Baseball America ranked him as Chicago's tenth best prospect in their Prospect Handbook. "While Escobar has quick hands at the plate, he has yet to develop the strength or discipline to be an effective hitter," wrote the publication.

    Hernandez, 23, allowed eight runs in four innings in his first career big league start earlier this season. He's pitched to a 2.94 ERA in 85 2/3 innings split between Double-A and Triple-A this year. Baseball America did not consider him one of the team's top 30 prospects coming into 2012. Both Hernandez and Escobar has been assigned to Triple-A Rochester, the Twins announced. A corresponding 40-man roster move will be announced tomorrow.
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    So nothing much, but probably about as good as they could expect for not really knowing at all what you're going to get when he goes to the mound.

    I think this is decidedly better than losing him at the end of the year for nothing, or getting hoodwinked into paying him 12.5 mil next year.



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    Re: Liriano traded to White Sox

    Quote Originally Posted by FDWxMan View Post
    Eduardo Escobar and Pedro Hernandez

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    Escobar's strength is his glove. Hernandez has jumped between starter and reliever before he was traded to the sox last year. Might not have the velocity to stay a starter, fastball is around 90.


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    Re: Liriano traded to White Sox

    Pedro Hernandez debuted a few weeks ago in Fenway Park as a spot starter. I like Escobar, but he is a utility infielder. Really like this as a Sox fan.



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    Re: Liriano traded to White Sox

    Quote Originally Posted by HGPuck View Post
    Escobar's strength is his glove. Hernandez has jumped between starter and reliever before he was traded to the sox last year. Might not have the velocity to stay a starter, fastball is around 90.
    So a utility inf that can't hit (joins list of every Twins inf minus JJ hardy of the past 10 years) and a somewhere in between reliever/starter topping at 90 mph.

    Good thing the Twins don't have any of those types around...(Carroll, Casilla, Dozier, Valencia, Florimon, Blackburn, Deduno, DeVries, Swarzak, Walters.....)

    **Not knocking the trade really, I don't think he was worth much more, just funny that it's the same types of players that have become obvious are at the heart of their decay. But again, I know this was really the about the tops you could expect...Twins just make me snarky these days.



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    Re: Liriano traded to White Sox

    Quote Originally Posted by TigerCyJM View Post
    What did they get in exchange?
    A bag of baseballs and some pine tar.



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    Re: Liriano traded to White Sox

    Quote Originally Posted by mwitt View Post
    Pedro Hernandez debuted a few weeks ago in Fenway Park as a spot starter. I like Escobar, but he is a utility infielder. Really like this as a Sox fan.

    Really needed another pitcher like this to help win the AL Central. Another good move IMO. Playing good ball all year and really keeping it up!

    White Sox with the win tonight are now up 2.5 on Det.

    GO SOX!



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    Re: Liriano traded to White Sox

    Quote Originally Posted by FDWxMan View Post
    So a utility inf that can't hit (joins list of every Twins inf minus JJ hardy of the past 10 years) and a somewhere in between reliever/starter topping at 90 mph.

    Good thing the Twins don't have any of those types around...(Carroll, Casilla, Dozier, Valencia, Florimon, Blackburn, Deduno, DeVries, Swarzak, Walters.....)

    **Not knocking the trade really, I don't think he was worth much more, just funny that it's the same types of players that have become obvious are at the heart of their decay. But again, I know this was really the about the tops you could expect...Twins just make me snarky these days.
    Yeah feel the same way about being the same type of guys the twins always end up with recently. I'm just glad both are relatively young while being just about major league ready. Escobar does have some upside. Likely utility infielder is his floor and solid major league short stop is his ceiling. Just depends how his bat continues to develop. Neither appear to have the upside to be stars.


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    Re: Liriano traded to White Sox

    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingCY View Post
    Really needed another pitcher like this to help win the AL Central. Another good move IMO. Playing good ball all year and really keeping it up!

    White Sox with the win tonight are now up 2.5 on Det.

    GO SOX!
    We'll need to make a move to get a backup IF since our farm is hilariously bad. Wouldn't be surprised if Vizquel returned.



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    Re: Liriano traded to White Sox

    Quote Originally Posted by mwitt View Post
    We'll need to make a move to get a backup IF since our farm is hilariously bad. Wouldn't be surprised if Vizquel returned.
    A low A infielder would be better than Visquel at this point. While our farm system is not good, it is not as bad as people say. I mean we won a game where 8 rookie pitchers pitched. We keep calling up pitchers and they perform most teams would love to have any of them,



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    Re: Liriano traded to White Sox

    I wouldn't like this move but considering we didn't give up much I'm ok with it. Liriano has always been so inconsistent in his career, hopefully he can put together a good stretch run as a back end starter.



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    Re: Liriano traded to White Sox

    Quote Originally Posted by Wx4Cy View Post
    As a Twins fan, not sure how I feel...
    Give it a few days. When you're in 4th place in the AL Central, you might feel a little better.




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