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    ESPN: Big 12 Summer Shoot-Around

    Summer Shootaround: Big 12 - ESPN

    Some nice BS here by Katz and Gottlieb. They don't even consider ISU in the Top 6 in conference next year. Man, I can't wait for the Mayor to destroy this conference this season!

    No mention of Clyburn? This guy is BIG 12 player of the year material IMO. Lucious got in part of the write-up... Niang as a big new-comer...that's about it.

    Not a mention of our NCAA Tourney appearance either. Said that Baylor played well with UK. Sorry, how are we not in this discussion?

    Tear 'em up this year Freddie! Big 12 Title is coming back to Ames soon under his command. GO Clones-



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    Re: ESPN: Big 12 Summer Shoot-Around

    So do we hate Gottlieb again?



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    Re: ESPN: Big 12 Summer Shoot-Around

    Adding fuel to the teams fire. Love it.



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    Re: ESPN: Big 12 Summer Shoot-Around

    Yay, it's hate Gottlieb season. My favorite time of the year :)


    Quote Originally Posted by AltHawk View Post
    Why would it? One bad game doesn't change a thing. Iowa will still be a darkhorse B1G championship contender, and Iowa State will be lucky to make the NIT.

    If you ask the basketball analysts outside the state of Iowa I think you would be surprised to hear their responses. Iowa was pegged as a preseason top 5 team by one ESPN analyst and is ranked in the vast, vast majority of preseason top 25 polls

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    Re: ESPN: Big 12 Summer Shoot-Around

    Can you copy and paste the text? Page wont load on my phone



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    Re: ESPN: Big 12 Summer Shoot-Around

    I actually like Gottlieb a lot. Never really had a problem with the guy. He is always talking up the Big 12 to all those other EAST COAST guys around him at ESPN.

    But a "big swing and a miss" here by these guys. Hoiberg was the BEST story in the conference last year by taking us to the tourney and being Co-COY in Conference. And not to mention him and his knowledge of the game - and recruits he has brought to Ames already....is flat our disrespect to Iowa State.



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    Re: ESPN: Big 12 Summer Shoot-Around

    Good motivation for our guys. Hopefully this kind of stuff fuels their fire because there will always be plenty of this



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    Re: ESPN: Big 12 Summer Shoot-Around

    These writers are dumb. They seem to think we are going to have Niang playing the Royce role, and that there's no way he can replicate what Royce did. The latter part would be true, but the first part is wrong. We aren't going to look anything like we did last year.



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    Re: ESPN: Big 12 Summer Shoot-Around

    I guess I didn't see anything inflammatory.



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    Re: ESPN: Big 12 Summer Shoot-Around

    I usually really like Katz and still do, but he needs to be told that Clyburn is the crown jewel transfer and not just an afterthought. You think he would have realized this looking at his stats at Utah and then hearing Royce say that Will might be better than him.



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    Re: ESPN: Big 12 Summer Shoot-Around

    Thanks for that but i was referring to the katz article.



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    Re: ESPN: Big 12 Summer Shoot-Around

    Here you go josh4isu:

    Iowa State became Transfer U under Fred Hoiberg, and it still is to some extent, with Michigan State senior transfer Korie Lucious trying to fill the void left by Royce White last season.
    But if the Cyclones are to build upon the momentum gained from last season's NCAA tournament win, they have to blend freshmen with their second-chance transfers.

    Hoiberg is confident his incoming class will give the Cyclones the right mix to remain relevant.

    Freshman Georges Niang has been the most impressive of the new lot, according to Hoiberg, but the coach has been pleased with the impact of the other three, Nkereuwem Okoro, Sherron Dorsey-Walker and Naz Long, as well. Iowa State has commitments for its 2013 class from Matt Thomas out of Wisconsin and Monte Morris from Michigan to shore up the perimeter.

    "I love this group, and with the two new commits and the guys coming in, we're excited about our future; the future is bright," Hoiberg said. "We've got a good mix right now. Five seniors and the young guys are very good players."

    Gone from last season's 23-11 team are White, Scott Christopherson and Chris Allen, the Cyclones' top three scorers. Two of the three -- White and Allen -- were transfers from other Division I schools. Chris Babb, another transfer, was the fifth-leading scorer and returns, and the Cyclones will look to yet another transfer this season in Michigan State's Lucious. Utah senior forward transfer Will Clyburn is also eligible. And Anthony Booker, Tyrus McGee and Percy Gibson will add depth.

    "The one thing we didn't have [last season] was a true point guard," Hoiberg said. "We gave a scholarship to Bubu Palo at mid-semester and he gave us solid minutes. We'll have a much more traditional point guard. We'll play faster. We'll have more athletic wings."

    Hoiberg said he won't change the way he is building this program. But he has better balance. The schedule will play out well for the Cyclones with a tournament in Las Vegas in which they'll open up against Cincinnati and then play either Oregon or host UNLV. The Cyclones added a home-and-home series with BYU, beginning in Ames. The rest is more than manageable, although the annual rivalry game with Iowa will be even tougher with the improvement of the Hawkeyes.

    Kansas will be the favorite in the Big 12, with Baylor, Texas and Kansas State likely on its heels. Oklahoma State and Oklahoma should be much improved. West Virginia and Iowa State could be the wild cards in the mix, putting the Big 12 in position to possibly have eight of its 10 teams in the mix for NCAA tournament bids in late February.

    "The blueprint is to have as much talent as possible and, at first, when we got here, it happened to be transfers," said Hoiberg, who signed a new eight-year deal after last season that will push him through 2021. "It worked well for us and we'll always look for transfers here. We had great chemistry together and it showed later in the year. That being said, we want freshmen in this program. We have an enthusiastic group and we've got great kids and players in this program for the next four years."



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    Re: ESPN: Big 12 Summer Shoot-Around

    THANK YOU



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    Re: ESPN: Big 12 Summer Shoot-Around

    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs2118 View Post
    So do we hate Gottlieb again?
    There was a time when we didn't hate Gottlieb?



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