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    Former OSU BBall player guilty

    Darrell Williams apparently went crazy after verdict was read too

    Jury: OSU player guilty of rape by instrumentation | Fox News



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    Re: Former OSU BBall player guilty

    I was kinda surprised by this. There was no evidence other than the victims and this all occurred at a house party. One of them said she was drug outside by him, but not a single other person saw that? At a house party?


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    Re: Former OSU BBall player guilty

    Usually where there's smoke, there's fire. But that's not normally enough for a conviction.



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    Re: Former OSU BBall player guilty

    I don't see how you can convict someone on a he said, she said without any additional witnesses or physical evidence.



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    Re: Former OSU BBall player guilty

    Obviously I don't have all the details but this sounds like a failure of the justice system. No tangible evidence, just he-said she-said, and his life is essentially over. No one heard screaming, no one saw anything, no cuts/bruises/etc., and he gets convicted? Terrible job by the jury.



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    The outburst prompted Tontz to quickly move to the other side of the prosecutors' table and cry as she clutched a sheriff's deputy. The prosecutor later said she felt intimidated.



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    Re: Former OSU BBall player guilty

    without reading the article couldn't he appeal?



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    Re: Former OSU BBall player guilty

    Quote Originally Posted by Daserop View Post
    without reading the article couldn't he appeal?
    I sure as hell hope he does. I don't see how the jury could have convicted him in this.

    The only thing they can go off of is two drunk girls identifying someone that was in a basement of a house party. That is crazy.



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    Re: Former OSU BBall player guilty

    Yeah I'm having a hard time with this one. How can he possibly be found guilty? The girls didn't even know who did it but pointed him out when the cops showed a picture of the basketball team? What? And nobody saw a girl getting drug outside a party?



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    Re: Former OSU BBall player guilty

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    Obviously I don't have all the details but this sounds like a failure of the justice system. No tangible evidence, just he-said she-said, and his life is essentially over. No one heard screaming, no one saw anything, no cuts/bruises/etc., and he gets convicted? Terrible job by the jury.
    And the nerve of them to suggest that he gets the minimum punishment possible. To me this sounds like they weren't really convinced.



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    Re: Former OSU BBall player guilty

    Southern Justice doesn't need facts.



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    Re: Former OSU BBall player guilty

    I'm not saying the jury did a good job or that this guy is guilty, but it seems odd to me that many in this thread are able to read one (kinda poorly written) article and presume to know more about the case than the jurors who sat through the whole trial and came to a consensus agreement.



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    Re: Former OSU BBall player guilty

    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbuk View Post
    Southern Justice doesn't need facts.
    By the article it seems this way.



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    Re: Former OSU BBall player guilty

    Quote Originally Posted by bawbie View Post
    I'm not saying the jury did a good job or that this guy is guilty, but it seems odd to me that many in this thread are able to read one (kinda poorly written) article and presume to know more about the case than the jurors who sat through the whole trial and came to a consensus agreement.
    Isn't that the way of the internet though.

    I agree that the article wasn't written well, but it really seems like there is a lack of the evidence. I understand that usually the victims in these types of cases get little to no justice and often seem to lack credibility, but the problem is when the jury gets it wrong the damage can be very detrimental, for example Brian Banks.

    Like I said that if the jury recommended to give him the the least amount of punishment possible, it really seems that they were a little unsure of the how guilty he was.



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    Re: Former OSU BBall player guilty

    I was hoping Gottlieb got nailed for something. This thread disappoints me greatly.



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