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    Since RB is a strength and QB is not....

    ... wouldn't it make sense to run an offense that stresses running the ball as much as possible and limiting the passing game?

    Not that you can abandon the pass completely, but I just don't trust Barnett or Jantz right now, unless they've improved dramatically, to not kill us with stupid turnovers.

    Why not run that diamond formation, or whatever it's called, a lot more... where there are 3 RB's surrounding the QB in shotgun... one on each side of him and one behind him?

    I think this is the biggest reason why I wouldn't necessarily count out Sam Richardson this season either. In this offense, you MUST have a great QB that is very accurate. Most say that you need someone that can complete passes at a 70% rate. If Sam can do that, why not give him a shot? Especially if Barnett or Jantz can't hit the broad side of a barn again this year.

    I just think we'll have to use our RB depth to it's fullest. And somehow limit the passing game if possible? And if we can't limit the passing game, then we had better darn well have a QB back there that can throw it and complete it.



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    Re: Since RB is a strength and QB is not....

    We already are a run first team



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    Re: Since RB is a strength and QB is not....

    How do you know that quarterback won't be a strength? And besides, as much as I like our backs, it's not as if we have Adrian Peterson, Chris Johnson or Ladanian Tomlinson back there.




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    Re: Since RB is a strength and QB is not....

    As soon as I saw the thread title and who the OP was, I facepalmed. Now that I've read that... facepalm.



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    Re: Since RB is a strength and QB is not....

    We've recruited OL for a spread offense. Do you think we can become a power running team with the snap of your fingers?



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    Re: Since RB is a strength and QB is not....

    I guess it's just too tough to say, "Hey! Our coaches know what they're doing!"




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    Re:Since RB is a strength and QB is not....

    Id say our offense is already one that minimizes the need for stellar Qb play. Zone read and screen passes mainly.



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    Re: Since RB is a strength and QB is not....

    I do not think our running back are that good either.



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    Re: Since RB is a strength and QB is not....

    Quote Originally Posted by clonedude View Post
    ... wouldn't it make sense to run an offense that stresses running the ball as much as possible and limiting the passing game?

    Not that you can abandon the pass completely, but I just don't trust Barnett or Jantz right now, unless they've improved dramatically, to not kill us with stupid turnovers.

    Why not run that diamond formation, or whatever it's called, a lot more... where there are 3 RB's surrounding the QB in shotgun... one on each side of him and one behind him?

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    I just think we'll have to use our RB depth to it's fullest. And somehow limit the passing game if possible? And if we can't limit the passing game, then we had better darn well have a QB back there that can throw it and complete it.

    Quenton Bundrage, JaQuarius Daniels, Tad Ecby, Dondre Daley, Quan West, and PJ Harris would probably wonder why they came to Ames.....



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    Re: Since RB is a strength and QB is not....

    How can anyone think that we aren't a running team? Our spread is completely based around the zone read...like said before: We ARE a run first team!



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    Re:Since RB is a strength and QB is not....

    If we rolled out the wishbone formation id go home and sell the rest of my tickets.



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    Re: Since RB is a strength and QB is not....

    You have got to be ******** me right now.


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    Re: Since RB is a strength and QB is not....

    Troy Davis was a run first team, great player, lousy teams



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    Re: Since RB is a strength and QB is not....

    Quote Originally Posted by rebecacy View Post
    We already are a run first team
    No... we're not.



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    Re: Since RB is a strength and QB is not....

    I'd rather have a balanced attack than a one dimensional one, and the spread offense helps make up for some of the limitations of the QB.

    Also, who says you can't have a running offense out of the spread? Look at K-State, Nebraska, and Oregon.



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