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    Boise State wins with 2 Star football players.

    There are many who want to gauge recruiting success on stars. Tim Brewster at Minnesota proved that high recruiting classes don't necessarily equate to wins. Here are Boise State rankings that let to undefeated and one less seasons. Keep in mind, many of the two star players had no stars when they committed:

    Boise State Recruit ratings (Rivals)

    2002
    24-Two Stars
    0-Three Stars

    2003
    16-Two Stars
    3-Three Stars

    2004
    25-Two Stars
    5-Three Stars

    2005
    10-Two Stars
    5-Three Stars
    1-Four Star

    2006
    14-Two Stars
    3-Three Stars

    2007
    22-Two Stars
    7-Three Stars

    2008
    14-Two Stars
    5-Three Stars

    2009
    10-Two Stars
    11-Three Stars



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    Re: Boise State wins with 2 Star football players.

    Quote Originally Posted by ketelmeister View Post
    There are many who want to gauge recruiting success on stars. Tim Brewster at Minnesota proved that high recruiting classes don't necessarily equate to wins. Here are Boise State rankings that let to undefeated and one less seasons. Keep in mind, many of the two star players had no stars when they committed:

    Boise State Recruit ratings (Rivals)

    2002
    24-Two Stars
    0-Three Stars

    2003
    16-Two Stars
    3-Three Stars

    2004
    25-Two Stars
    5-Three Stars

    2005
    10-Two Stars
    5-Three Stars
    1-Four Star

    2006
    14-Two Stars
    3-Three Stars

    2007
    22-Two Stars
    7-Three Stars

    2008
    14-Two Stars
    5-Three Stars

    2009
    10-Two Stars
    11-Three Stars
    thats the exception

    just like teams that dont win with high recruiting classes are also the exception


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    Re: Boise State wins with 2 Star football players.

    Boise State also doesn't play Big XII talent every week. I see your point, but I'm just saying :)



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    Re: Boise State wins with 2 Star football players.

    Low academic standards
    Juco Transfers
    Level of competition they play skew this stat



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    Re: Boise State wins with 2 Star football players.

    Ok, so Boise State can win with 2 stars playing against a bunch of glorified FBS schools in 8 of it's games each year.

    It's another animal completely to do that in the B12 + Iowa.

    Not to mention, IIRC they used to have some pretty lax academic standards which probably knocked some of their athletes down a star ranking or so.

    More years than not, Iowa would be BSU's toughest regular season opponent. In our schedule they are usually somewhere middle of the pack.



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    Re: Boise State wins with 2 Star football players.

    They allow partial qualifiers.



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    Re: Boise State wins with 2 Star football players.

    Quote Originally Posted by TallKidIsTall View Post
    thats the exception

    just like teams that dont win with high recruiting classes are also the exception
    Exactly. I know a guy that won the lottery, but that in no way means it's likely I'll win the lottery. Sometimes there's a gulf between possible and probable.

    That said, I'm gonna trust CPR until he gives me reasons not to.



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    Re: Boise State wins with 2 Star football players.

    Point is, the players are rated two stars and they win with them. And they win when they play top schools like Oklahoma. Ratings are ratings and their players rate low.
    Over the past two seasons they have beaten:
    Georgia
    Tulsa
    Airforce
    Arizona S
    Vir Tech
    Oregon State
    Utah
    Toledo
    (lost to TCU last year by 1)
    plus their bowl games
    They have a decent schedule.


    Last edited by ketelmeister; 07-18-2012 at 06:55 PM.

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    Re: Boise State wins with 2 Star football players.

    Not even a close comparison.

    You are off your rocker if you think you can compare the 2 situations.



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    Re: Boise State wins with 2 Star football players.

    Quote Originally Posted by ketelmeister View Post
    There are many who want to gauge recruiting success on stars. Tim Brewster at Minnesota proved that high recruiting classes don't necessarily equate to wins. Here are Boise State rankings that let to undefeated and one less seasons. Keep in mind, many of the two star players had no stars when they committed:

    Boise State Recruit ratings (Rivals)

    2002
    24-Two Stars
    0-Three Stars

    2003
    16-Two Stars
    3-Three Stars

    2004
    25-Two Stars
    5-Three Stars

    2005
    10-Two Stars
    5-Three Stars
    1-Four Star

    2006
    14-Two Stars
    3-Three Stars

    2007
    22-Two Stars
    7-Three Stars

    2008
    14-Two Stars
    5-Three Stars

    2009
    10-Two Stars
    11-Three Stars
    Excellent information. It won't, however, satisfy the contaminators. They would be doing their thing even if we signed 25 five star recruits. It is who they are.



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    Re: Boise State wins with 2 Star football players.

    Quote Originally Posted by ketelmeister View Post
    Point is, the players are rated two stars and they win with them. And they win when they play top schools like Oklahoma. Ratings are ratings and their players rate low.

    A lot of times they rate low because they wouldn't get into any other schools besides Boise or a JUCO.

    They are a lot of times 4* talent, with a 2* rating, because academics drag them down.



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    Re: Boise State wins with 2 Star football players.

    Quote Originally Posted by CyCrazy View Post
    Low academic standards
    Juco Transfers
    Level of competition they play skew this stat
    They have to pass the Clearinghouse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbuk View Post
    They allow partial qualifiers.
    No they don't but feel free to perpetuate this myth.


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    Re: Boise State wins with 2 Star football players.

    I understand what your saying Ketel but it really is apples and oranges. I could list LSU's commit lists and say we need to only 3 stars and higher. Boise did that in the WAC as well.

    But you are right, it can be done. Lets hope CPR is doing that with this class.



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    Re: Boise State wins with 2 Star football players.

    Quote Originally Posted by ketelmeister View Post
    Point is, the players are rated two stars and they win with them. And they win when they play top schools like Oklahoma. Ratings are ratings and their players rate low.
    They play scrubs all year and at the end of the year get a month to scheme and prepare for OU. It is not the same. Put them in the Big 12/SEC they will not have the same results.



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    Re: Boise State wins with 2 Star football players.

    We play to our competition. If we can keep the petal to the metal all season long, we can have a GREAT season, doesn't matter how many stars on players have in rivals.


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