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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    Realignment scoop

    247 sports oard jumping on the NC\VA to the big 10, NCST\VT to the SEC rumor train
    If it shakes out like that, I'd expect 3-6 schools to immediately take a place next to Louisville knocking on our door.

    FSU isn't happy with Syracuse and eventually UConn coming in while WVU was not even considered. They sure as H won't like VTech leaving.



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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    Quote Originally Posted by HFCS View Post
    If it shakes out like that, I'd expect 3-6 schools to immediately take a place next to Louisville knocking on our door.

    FSU isn't happy with Syracuse and eventually UConn coming in while WVU was not even considered. They sure as H won't like VTech leaving.
    If that happens, the Big 12 takes in a good coup of FSU, Clemson, Ga Tech, Duke, Pitt, and probably UL.

    I still believe the Big 12 has a lot to sell those ACC schools in regards to staying together with equivalent $$



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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
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    247 sports oard jumping on the NC\VA to the big 10, NCST\VT to the SEC rumor train
    I can see this - the Big Ten wants to move south, started with Maryland, and will destroy the ACC by taking all the plum teams - Carolina, UVa, Georgia Tech, Duke, etc. They won't stop until they get to 20...



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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    Realignment scoop

    247 sports oard jumping on the NC\VA to the big 10, NCST\VT to the SEC rumor train
    All aboard the superconference train!

    Clemson
    Duke
    Florida State
    Georgia Tech
    Louisville
    Miami
    Notre Dame
    Pittsburgh

    Eight options there for six picks. If Notre Dame is not interested, drop Miami and take the other six. If ND is in, drop Miami and Duke from the list.

    Will be interesting to see if the Pac-12 moves as well. What are their options?

    Boise State
    BYU
    Nevada

    What else could they possibly do if they wanted 16? Colorado State? UNLV? San Diego State?


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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    Quote Originally Posted by Tornado man View Post
    I can see this - the Big Ten wants to move south, started with Maryland, and will destroy the ACC by taking all the plum teams - Carolina, UVa, Georgia Tech, Duke, etc. They won't stop until they get to 20...
    Perhaps, but at that point saying the Big 10 is moving south would be like saying West Virginia joined the Missouri Valley Intercollegiate Athletic Association. Nevertheless, your general concept stands. Certain powers realize expansion and cable networks are means to removing the middlemen that are the NCAA and ESPN.

    I would have liked the Big 12 presidents to have Bob put a standing offer to the 10 most tenured members of the ACC to form an ACC division of the "Big 12" last summer.


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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    I'd like to see the Big 12 expand to 14. 12 is stupid since the big 12 will have to expand eventually.

    I hope they take:

    Florida St (florida recruiting and money)
    Ga Tech (Atlanta TV)
    Louisville (good programs and some TV)
    BYU (Salt Lake City)

    I doubt the Big 12 thinks of taking BYU so I guess Pittsburgh would be good (WVU rival plus Pennsylvania TV)


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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    BYU is off the table I hope thats too many time zones



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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    Quote Originally Posted by IHavNoCyCash View Post
    I'd like to see the Big 12 expand to 14. 12 is stupid since the big 12 will have to expand eventually.

    I hope they take:

    Florida St (florida recruiting and money)
    Ga Tech (Atlanta TV)
    Louisville (good programs and some TV)
    BYU (Salt Lake City)

    I doubt the Big 12 thinks of taking BYU so I guess Pittsburgh would be good (WVU rival plus Pennsylvania TV)
    No BYU. They subtract more than they add.



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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    Lets add another Texas school.........

    you think KU will fight for Duke to add a bball school?



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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    Once we have 4 16-team conferences, how long before they decide to have their own post-season basketball tournament and cut the NCAA out of the tv money?



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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    Quote Originally Posted by OPButtrey View Post
    Once we have 4 16-team conferences, how long before they decide to have their own post-season basketball tournament and cut the NCAA out of the tv money?
    Wouldnt surprise me if it happened someday, though unless it invited the smaller schools it would be a huge risk.



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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    Quote Originally Posted by OPButtrey View Post
    Once we have 4 16-team conferences, how long before they decide to have their own post-season basketball tournament and cut the NCAA out of the tv money?
    With-in 5 years?



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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    I really think the super conferences are unstable and you'll eventually see some contraction. What happens if the Big12 goes to 16 then decides to split? What do you think our chances are of being in the conference after that? Just saying....get to 12...and sit. You get divisions again which collectively improves the records in the conference...(see SEC vs Big12 right now)...you get the championship game and all is well. Then watch the other conferences fall apart.

    Long term I believe that is what will happen. When you have 16...all you really have is two 8 team conferences that occasionally play some of these other teams.



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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    So I was just reading the thread about Pinkel possibly retiring tomorrow and got to thinking. So far the Mizzou to SEC move has not gone well. IF they expressed interest in returning to the Big12, do you think the Big12 says yes?

    Personally, I think they are a good fit and was sad to see them go. I would be for it. They're kind of like that friend that everybody has that is a total A-hole. Sure he's an A-hole...but he's YOUR a-hole.



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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    Quote Originally Posted by Boxerdaddy View Post
    I really think the super conferences are unstable and you'll eventually see some contraction. What happens if the Big12 goes to 16 then decides to split? What do you think our chances are of being in the conference after that? Just saying....get to 12...and sit. You get divisions again which collectively improves the records in the conference...(see SEC vs Big12 right now)...you get the championship game and all is well. Then watch the other conferences fall apart.

    Long term I believe that is what will happen. When you have 16...all you really have is two 8 team conferences that occasionally play some of these other teams.
    What happens if the Big 12 stays at 12 and then decides to split because they are the smallest, weakest conference? Or realize their mistake in not expanding, but now it is too late to pick up quality programs? Sitting at 12 is as liable to be unstable as 16. Four more programs gives you more weight in the playoffs, more population do generate revenue from your own network, more critical mass.



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