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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    Quote Originally Posted by everyyard View Post
    shaggybevo has someone saying the goal is not 16 but 20 and that the networks want 3 20 team "leagues" for which there would be 2 from each league in the 6 team playoff. fwiw.
    That just sounds like someone who was 100% convinced that the 4 16-team superconferences were going to be the Big 10, ACC, SEC, and Pac 16, brining about the imminent destruction of the Big 12, and was about as far wrong in throwing **** at the wall as one could get. The Big 12 not only is surviving, but is thriving. The Pac 12 has no shot at getting to 16 unless it invites MWC teams or jumps the shark even worse than adding Texas and Oklahoma would have. And the ACC, the conference that once and for all was to prove itself superior to the Big East in every single way, is now only going to do so because it is going to have to become what the Big East was just to survive Confrageddon at all.

    Essentially, this guy that Bevo is featuring is so butthurt he's now resorting to throwing his own diarrhea at the wall just because he likes the color brown.


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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    My turn with the carving knife:

    Suppose the Big 12 were of the mindset to throw a life line to the ACC and offer to bring 6 teams over as a block to allow them to maintain some cultural connectivity to one another. Which six ACC teams would be taken if they could have any of those left? In order from greatest football value to the least...

    FSU
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    NCSU

    This would leave Wake, Duke, UVA, Miami, Syracuse, BC, and Pitt to merge with Louisville, UConn, Temple, Cincy, and South Florida as the remnants of those two leagues. While a clear step down, it seems like a group that belongs together football-wise. Add in Georgetown, Seton Hall, Villanova, Providence, Marquette, and St. Johns in basketball and you have a significant product to sell to TV.



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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***




    This is the chart of value of ACC football schools showing their relative number of fans according to NY Times blogger Nate Silver. Interesting that the top 6 still available by fan base would not include Florida State....



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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    Wow clemson and florida state surprise me.



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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    At first I thought that the Florida State number must be wrong, but then I realized it came from Nate Silver...



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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    Quote Originally Posted by Die4Cy View Post



    This is the chart of value of ACC football schools showing their relative number of fans according to NY Times blogger Nate Silver. Interesting that the top 6 still available by fan base would not include Florida State....
    Quote Originally Posted by IceCyIce View Post
    Wow clemson and florida state surprise me.
    The big flaw in Silver's methodology (using Google search volume as a proxy for the number of football fans in a media market) is that it assumes fans of each football team have equal access to a computer and the internet. If you've ever been to the Florida panhandle, you'd know this was not the case...some of those yokels wouldn't know what a computer was if you dropped it on the hood of their El Camino. Hence why it looks as if FSU has relatively few fans.

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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    There were a lot of other questionable things about those numbers the last time they came up too.



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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    Quote Originally Posted by IceCyIce View Post
    Wow clemson and florida state surprise me.
    Georgia Tech is the real shocker IMO. No chance they are that high, and certainly not double the fanbase of FSU.



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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    Barfknecht: 16 members sounds sweet for Big Ten - Omaha.com

    Ya I am sure KU can go without their TV money for 13 years. Where do these dumb *** writers come up with this? Do they think about the situation before they write the article?



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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    Again this is why I read for entertainment value:

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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy View Post
    Barfknecht: 16 members sounds sweet for Big Ten - Omaha.com

    Ya I am sure KU can go without their TV money for 13 years. Where do these dumb *** writers come up with this? Do they think about the situation before they write the article?
    People that stop to think get out-scooped on Twitter. They'll look like fools! Everyone knows that.



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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    Just want to drop in and say that if the devil (ESPN) who college football has pretty much written its life away to wants four 16 team conferences for the playoff, or worse three 20 team conferences, then I hope everyone involved has to sit through 7 pathetic Iowa football games at Kinnick next year - something I would never wish on my worst enemy. I personally will take an increased interest in high school football. There is already an NFL and its not really all that fun.



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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    Big Ten additions seen as potential boosts to UNL, U of I academics - Omaha.com

    And, according to this year's U.S. News & World Report ratings, both new members outrank Nebraska and Iowa academically.

    U.S. News put Maryland 58th among national research universities, which would be the seventh-best among the Big Ten. Rutgers ranked 68th nationally, which would tie Minnesota as ninth-highest among the Big Ten.
    Iowa ranked 72nd nationally in the U.S. News ratings, and UNL was 101st.
    Guess delaney is selling this expansion on athletics not academics. Not. The football AAU.


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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue52 View Post
    Just want to drop in and say that if the devil (ESPN) who college football has pretty much written its life away to wants four 16 team conferences for the playoff, or worse three 20 team conferences
    Given that the college presidents just got done approving a playoff and bowl format that includes access for the Group of Five conferences (Sun Belt, MAC, MWC, Big East, CUSA), I find these comments here and elsewhere very difficult to believe or flat out wrong.



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