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    Smoking Bans

    Does anybody care about this issue? Do you support smoking bans in restaurants and taverns?



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    Re: Smoking Bans

    Selfishly, I very much do so. I try to frequent said establishments.

    Ideologically, I think it should be up to the proprietor of the establishment.

    Both being said, this is one issue that my selfishness overrides my idealism.



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    Re: Smoking Bans

    My idealism is that employers (restaurant, casino, and tavern owners) should be not be subjecting employees to an unheathy workplace. Employees should not have to make a choice between their health and their job.



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    Re: Smoking Bans

    My stance: Personal choice made by the establishments owner, period. Consumers and employees have a choice, yes choice, in doing business there and/or working there.

    Can anyone find a bar/resturant that changed from non-smoking to smoking? Probably not. The employees knew (or should have known) the companies policies on smoking if is an important issue to them before they accept the job. I chose the word accept, because working isn't a right, it is a privilege that both parties have to agree to.

    If there is a viable market for non-smoking bars and/or restaurants, the market will sustain that business.... fed up on smoke in a bar or restaurant? Open one up, what a great chance to make the difference in your communities well being!

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    Re: Smoking Bans

    I'm in favor of smoking bans. When I'm exposed to smoke in any form, I get breathing troubles, and that just isn't something I want to deal with.

    Smoking is a choice. Having a bad reaction to smoke isn't.



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    Re: Smoking Bans

    We have a local smoking ban in all restaurants and I am extremely happy for it. I personally can't stand the smell, I desire to keep my two kids away from all smoking and my wife's asthma is bothered by smoke. So to answer Alaskaguy's original question, Yes, I fully support any and all smoking bans.



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    Re: Smoking Bans

    I would love there to a smoking ban in Iowa like California. It is so nice to be able to go to a restaurant or bar and not have to deal with all those nasty smokers.


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    Re: Smoking Bans

    Quote Originally Posted by keepngoal View Post

    Can anyone find a bar/resturant that changed from non-smoking to smoking? Probably not. The employees knew (or should have known) the companies policies on smoking if is an important issue to them before they accept the job. I chose the word accept, because working isn't a right, it is a privilege that both parties have to agree to.
    Not sure what it is called, but there is one out near jordan creek in that target complex that was non smoknig and went to smoking. We did not know that until we walked in, and then turned around and walked back out.


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    Re: Smoking Bans

    Keepngoal, I agree that employees have a choice. Nevertheless I believe that as a society we should realize that the government has a role in protecting employees from unsafe and unhealthy working conditions. If we aren't going to protect employees from the risks of second hand smoke, why should the government be involved in mine safety or many other potential worker safety/health issues?



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    Re: Smoking Bans

    Quote Originally Posted by brianhos View Post
    Not sure what it is called, but there is one out near jordan creek in that target complex that was non smoknig and went to smoking. We did not know that until we walked in, and then turned around and walked back out.
    I think you mean the "Cab," or Cabaret. They allow smoking in the enclosed patio, but the actual bar is non smoking. You have to walk thru the patio to get into the bar.



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    Re: Smoking Bans

    I've heard a lot recently about workers that are concerned about the effects of being exposed to second hand smoke.

    Where are the unions? Unions were designed to protect the worker from unsafe working conditions. Would they allow employees to be exposed to toxins and cancer causing chemicals in a factory?

    It seems to me if the unions are worrying about dwindling numbers why not pick up the service industry workers and support them....

    My 2 cents...



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    Re: Smoking Bans

    People, we choose to work where we do and we choose to join their team. If the place is a smoking establishment (bar, resturant, store or whatever), job seeker beware.

    We choose to sit in non-smoking rooms that are clearly void of any smoke or to establishments that are smoke free or on smoke free nights. It is OUR responsibility to protect our health, not the governments.

    It is easy for ppl to be for a 'law' when it benefits them.... but those that can 'protect' themselves when the law doesn't benefit them are the real winners in a free society.

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    Re: Smoking Bans

    As a smoker, even one trying to quit again, I'm all for banning smoking in bars and restaraunts. I prefer going to bars where I have to go outside to smoke, reasons being two-fold. One, I don't have to sit in a haze, and two, I don't smoke nearly as much as when at a place where I can smoke where I'm sitting.

    What I don't approve of, are banning smoking throughout a town, except for designated "smoking areas." Unless it's immediately outside an entrance/exit, someone having a cigarette on the sidewalk will affect someone else about as much as farting.


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    Re: Smoking Bans

    Quote Originally Posted by keepngoal View Post
    People, we choose to work where we do and we choose to join their team. If the place is a smoking establishment (bar, resturant, store or whatever), job seeker beware.

    We choose to sit in non-smoking rooms that are clearly void of any smoke or to establishments that are smoke free or on smoke free nights. It is OUR responsibility to protect our health, not the governments.

    It is easy for ppl to be for a 'law' when it benefits them.... but those that can 'protect' themselves when the law doesn't benefit them are the real winners in a free society.

    -keep.
    I agree........I am all for private businesses to decide for themselves whether or not they allow it. That way, if you give a rip one way or the other, you have a choice of where to go. I also agree with 62 that some of the public area bans are pretty stupid. You cannot tell me that banning smoking on a walking trail, outside, has any basis in reality other than just to satisfy someone's need to control what other people do.



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    Re: Smoking Bans

    Quote Originally Posted by brianhos View Post
    I would love there to a smoking ban in Iowa like California. It is so nice to be able to go to a restaurant or bar and not have to deal with all those nasty smokers.
    Minnesota is in on the smoking ban now too as of October 1st. I am with a few others on here, not too big on the Gov't telling owners how to run their business but personally love not having to shower before bed after going out for a few drinks/dinner.


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