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    Re: Williams Blog: Hoiberg 2.0?

    Freddy wasn't the shooter than Matt is at the same point in his career, actually.



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    Re: Williams Blog: Hoiberg 2.0?

    Fred was a better athlete. Freddy could jump!

    Also, I've always thought Fred seemed taller than 6'4


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    Re: Williams Blog: Hoiberg 2.0?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cydkar View Post
    Freddy wasn't the shooter than Matt is at the same point in his career, actually.
    True story. Hoiberg's progression as a 3 point shooter at ISU:

    Freshman: 13-50, 26%
    Sophomore: 22-60, 36.67%
    Junior: 59-131, 45.04%
    Senior: 89-216, 41.2%




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    Re: Williams Blog: Hoiberg 2.0?

    It is cool that Fred says stuff like that to recruits...and i truly believe that if ANY player listens to Fred and seeks to improve, there is HUGE potential. I think talent is one thing, but being coached and having confidence (which Fred instills in his players) creates GREAT opportunities.

    On a side note, I am real excited for guys like Melvin Ejim and Percy Gibson. I already have seen strides in Melvin's game and he has two years left, Percy also has great raw skill, but plenty of time to further develop. I think it's always nice to have star power (like Royce), but never underestimate the value of a guy who becomes a solid contributer over time. Kind of like Nick Collison right now for the OKC Thunder....he's not a headline maker on ESPN, but he has done SO many things that have helped the Thunder win.



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    Re: Williams Blog: Hoiberg 2.0?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cydkar View Post
    Freddy wasn't the shooter than Matt is at the same point in his career, actually.
    Fred me in coaching please maybe??
    I can't wait to see what this kid has in Big 12 play



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    Re: Williams Blog: Hoiberg 2.0?

    ....and oh yeah they're both white!

    This guy looks more like Scotty with a little more mass. Fred was an athletic freak.



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    Re: Williams Blog: Hoiberg 2.0?

    Quote Originally Posted by 4429 mcc View Post
    ....and oh yeah they're both white!

    This guy looks more like Scotty with a little more mass. Fred was an athletic freak.
    That's actually exactly how I described Thomas to somebody the other day. Scott Christopherson with a better frame.



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    Re: Williams Blog: Hoiberg 2.0?

    Quote Originally Posted by khaal53 View Post
    True story. Hoiberg's progression as a 3 point shooter at ISU:

    Freshman: 13-50, 26%
    Sophomore: 22-60, 36.67%
    Junior: 59-131, 45.04%
    Senior: 89-216, 41.2%
    i'm glad you posted those stats - most people have no idea fred only made 13 3's as a frosh.

    fred was practically a power forward for a lot of high school, and small forward at ISU until late in his career. he wasn't really a stud shooter until the NBA.

    i think the tendency is to see a white shooter in high school and think "he's just like fred" but fred became famous in high school when he broke a backboard dunking, not from shooting from deep.

    also, back in fred's days you still played multiple sports. fred spent his early season of hoops recovering from getting demolished as a qb behind the worse offensive line you've ever seen. he even ran some track in the spring too - which no one does now because they play aau.



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    Re: Williams Blog: Hoiberg 2.0?

    Fred had a full ride scholly to Nebraska to play football QB and lute Olson at Arizona really wanted him for bball.



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    Re: Williams Blog: Hoiberg 2.0?

    [QUOTE=brokenloginagain;2903982]i'm glad you posted those stats - most people have no idea fred only made 13 3's as a frosh.

    fred was practically a power forward for a lot of high school, and small forward at ISU until late in his career. he wasn't really a stud shooter until the NBA.

    IDK, shooting around 43% your final two seasons in big 12 play would probably qualify you as a stud 3pt shooter.



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    Re: Williams Blog: Hoiberg 2.0?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams View Post
    That's actually exactly how I described Thomas to somebody the other day. Scott Christopherson with a better frame.
    IMO, MT appears to have better handles than SC.


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    Re: Williams Blog: Hoiberg 2.0?

    It sure seems like MT is already ahead of the curve and will only get better as he develops under Hoiberg. The kid is known as a pure shooter and his skill set will only get better as he develops at ISU. I am really excited ISU was able to snag him.



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    Re: Williams Blog: Hoiberg 2.0?

    Quote Originally Posted by brokenloginagain View Post
    i'm glad you posted those stats - most people have no idea fred only made 13 3's as a frosh.

    fred was practically a power forward for a lot of high school, and small forward at ISU until late in his career. he wasn't really a stud shooter until the NBA.

    i think the tendency is to see a white shooter in high school and think "he's just like fred" but fred became famous in high school when he broke a backboard dunking, not from shooting from deep.

    also, back in fred's days you still played multiple sports. fred spent his early season of hoops recovering from getting demolished as a qb behind the worse offensive line you've ever seen. he even ran some track in the spring too - which no one does now because they play aau.
    Fred played the 2 at Ames High and some publications had him ranked the #1 shooter.

    I'm not sure where this stuff about him not shooting well at this stage is coming from.



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    Re: Williams Blog: Hoiberg 2.0?

    I think it is going to be really fun to watch what FH can do with the development of players over the years, especially the guards.

    Look at the improvement in Scotty the last couple of years. Imagine how good DG could have been his senior year if that were his 4th year with FH, instead of only his one and done year.

    I may be wrong, but I really think that one of the strongest points of FH and his staff will be the development and progression of players. I think FH will be able to do wonders with a natural shooter like Thomas. It will be fun to watch.



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