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    The BCS, SEC, & ESPN bring out the Hulk in me.

    After watching about 5 minutes of College Football Live I'm furious at these idiots. They talk about what they fans want, but it seems to me about what they want. They ran scenarios for how the post season could possibly look in the future. One version had the BCS bowls without AQ status and naturally 5 out of the 10 teams were from the SEC. I know they've been good, but come on how much cool-aid are they going to drink. Even with the 4 team mini playoff they're going to make it a bogus post season. I really do want to see the best teams play but who gets a say in who the best teams are? Seems to me ESPN would have the top 4 SEC schools playing every year. Am I the only fan that wants a true and legitimate champion? It has to be decided on the field. Look at boxing and what having people vote on the winner gets you...a bunch of ****** off people!!! Two people can watch the same match and see two different things.. just like two different people can see the same season of college football and see different teams as the best. The bias now is towards the SEC because of the past, but how is that fair. How can an underdog ever win if you won't give them a chance. I still think Standford or Oklahoma St could have beaten LSU but we'll never know.

    I feel like I should back up my rant with my own idea. I say it has to be a play off big enough to include every major conference champion. SEC, Big12, Big10, Pac12, ACC, BigEast... stop there if you want and force the small schools to realize they aren't in the same league or go more if you think they can win. Conferences shouldn't divide into divisions. The conference championship game should be a match verses the best two teams in the conference. Last year the pac12 would have had a rematch of Oregon and Standford instead of a disappointing UCLA beat down. So the play off really begins with the conference championship. Makes the season meaningful because you have to be one of the best two to get into the game. Can't win your conference, tough... switch conferences. Quit telling me how the SEC is so hard and you deserve more teams in the BCS... if you can handle the heat get out. Someone will take your place, trust me! Is it too much to ask that we have a legitimate champion in college football?



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    Re: The BCS, SEC, & ESPN bring out the Hulk in me.

    I know you're going to get a lot of "You mad bro," but I am right there with you.



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    Re: The BCS, SEC, & ESPN bring out the Hulk in me.

    ESPN live sports broadcasts are a great thing, but their "journalism" leaves a lot to be desired.



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    Re: The BCS, SEC, & ESPN bring out the Hulk in me.

    I agree with your first paragraph. Not your second at all though. I would give AQs to the top 4 conference champions in the top 6. (A 15th ranked champion doesn't belong) Then at larges. Also the big east and acc are not major football conferences. The rankings should be primarily computer based with a small human element. And the coaches poll should not be one of those elements



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    Re: The BCS, SEC, & ESPN bring out the Hulk in me.

    one thing that has bothered me about these 'playoff' talk...if u r in a great conference and u finish second, you MIGHT be the second best team in country, but we know you are not number 1. So with my little brain, why not figure a way that you have to win your conference outright and then have the playoff.

    If you are looking to find the number one team in the nation, how can that come from the number two team in a conference



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    Re: The BCS, SEC, & ESPN bring out the Hulk in me.

    The OP nailed it. The bottom line is that yes... the SEC is the strongest conference most years but teams should not be graded based on the collective strength of their conference. Okie State had better numbers across the board when compared to Bama but the Gumps still got picked to play for the BCS title. Why? The only explanation is that the strength of the SEC collectively persuaded people to put Bama in the title game. Was Bama the best team? Were they even a better team then LSU since the split the 2 games they played? Nobody can say for sure.

    This is why you have to have an 8 team playoff. The 6 major conference champions and 2 wild card teams. That is as close as you can get to eliminating all of the bias in who gets in and who doesn't. It also gives smaller conferences a shot as well as 2 teams that don't win their conference as long as they have a resume that is good enough to get them in.

    IF this was the setup this past season Alabama still would have made the playoffs and had a chance to prove they were worthy on the field. Okie State also would have made it and got their shot.



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    Re: The BCS, SEC, & ESPN bring out the Hulk in me.

    Quote Originally Posted by klamath632 View Post
    ESPN live sports broadcasts are a great thing, but their "journalism" leaves a lot to be desired.
    I think it used to be good journalism, and the 30for30 segments show how good they can be when they focus on actual stories without throwing so much opinion into the mix.

    But every time I see the extensive SEC football segments/ads, the ACC basketball segments/ads or the hour-long NFL shows in May, I can't help but wonder how much time has been set aside to push the company's business interests within each broadcast.

    IMO, Sportscenter has become nothing more than a 24-hour promotional vehicle for whatever ESPN needs to promote with a few highlights sprinkled in.

    Maybe I just don't like them or maybe I'm completely wrong. But I hope the NBC Sports Network at least gives them a run for their money eventually because ESPN seems to have little balance anymore, not since they've become such a major business/news empire in the last 10 years.


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    Re: The BCS, SEC, & ESPN bring out the Hulk in me.

    I agree with this. I no longer watch espn.



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    Re: The BCS, SEC, & ESPN bring out the Hulk in me.

    First of all...how does this surprise you.....at all?



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    Re: The BCS, SEC, & ESPN bring out the Hulk in me.

    "If you are looking to find the number one team in the nation, how can that come from the number two team in a conference" - This is a good point proisu.

    I agree with the point that having a crappy conference champ play for the title isn't fun to watch, but that's why we need more than a 4 team playoff. A 4 team playoff solves nothing. I think it will be harder to decide the 4th best team than to decide on the 2nd best team. Lets face it the 4th best team any year is probably good enough to beat the #1 team on the right day. I like the 8 team idea cyclonestate78 proposed above. Conference champs plus 2 wild cards... everyone is happy. And I still say conference championship games should be played between the two best teams in the conference not two different division champs. It might hurt ISU's ability to win a championship, but at least it would ensure the best teams play in the big games.

    ESPN needs a rival. If yahoo sports or fox sports could step up and give me a different option for my sports tv I'd be happy to watch. I like having 3 different cable news stations. Fox, MSNBC, and CNN all bring something different to the table. Give me another sports station and I guarantee I'd watch it.



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    Re: The BCS, SEC, & ESPN bring out the Hulk in me.

    I believe that most ESPN analysts touch themselves while talking about the SEC. They probably don't wear any pants either. Makes me sick.



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    Re: The BCS, SEC, & ESPN bring out the Hulk in me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scruff View Post
    After watching about 5 minutes of College Football Live I'm furious at these idiots. They talk about what they fans want, but it seems to me about what they want. They ran scenarios for how the post season could possibly look in the future. One version had the BCS bowls without AQ status and naturally 5 out of the 10 teams were from the SEC. I know they've been good, but come on how much cool-aid are they going to drink. Even with the 4 team mini playoff they're going to make it a bogus post season. I really do want to see the best teams play but who gets a say in who the best teams are? Seems to me ESPN would have the top 4 SEC schools playing every year. Am I the only fan that wants a true and legitimate champion? It has to be decided on the field. Look at boxing and what having people vote on the winner gets you...a bunch of ****** off people!!! Two people can watch the same match and see two different things.. just like two different people can see the same season of college football and see different teams as the best. The bias now is towards the SEC because of the past, but how is that fair. How can an underdog ever win if you won't give them a chance. I still think Standford or Oklahoma St could have beaten LSU but we'll never know.

    I feel like I should back up my rant with my own idea. I say it has to be a play off big enough to include every major conference champion. SEC, Big12, Big10, Pac12, ACC, BigEast... stop there if you want and force the small schools to realize they aren't in the same league or go more if you think they can win. Conferences shouldn't divide into divisions. The conference championship game should be a match verses the best two teams in the conference. Last year the pac12 would have had a rematch of Oregon and Standford instead of a disappointing UCLA beat down. So the play off really begins with the conference championship. Makes the season meaningful because you have to be one of the best two to get into the game. Can't win your conference, tough... switch conferences. Quit telling me how the SEC is so hard and you deserve more teams in the BCS... if you can handle the heat get out. Someone will take your place, trust me! Is it too much to ask that we have a legitimate champion in college football?


    I don't really care who is #1. I care about rivalry games each week, conference championships, and interesting bowl games. And I fear that a playoff system will diminish all of these!

    As for letting a team play for the national championship that doesn't win its conference, there are a few scenarios that make sense, such as a team losing a conference game early in the season or losing because there is some extreme situation or losing a close game to the conference champion. Last year's LSU/Alabama rematch wasn't unreasonable.



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    Re: The BCS, SEC, & ESPN bring out the Hulk in me.

    I like how when you ask the SEC coaches, they say they want the best 4 teams because they could have the best four teams in their conference. Even though that's unlikely, they still do have to play each other. I don't care how good the 3rd place team is in the SEC, they're still going to have multiple losses and other conferences are going to have teams more worthy. Doesn't matter to me how good a conference is, no conference should ever have more than 2 teams in a playoff.



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