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    Wanted: conference Realignment rumors

    Come on guys, nothing juicy in days! There's gotta be something out there.



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    Re: Wanted: conference Realignment rumors

    No, please.


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    Re: Wanted: conference Realignment rumors

    Quote Originally Posted by Let's Go State View Post
    Come on guys, nothing juicy in days! There's gotta be something out there.
    I read on hawkeyereport.com that the Big 12 and ACC are going to dissolve then merge, and only keep the 12 best football schools while getting rid of the "dead weight" in both conferences. I was shocked to find that ISU would be among the teams left out.

    No reason not to believe that.



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    Re: Wanted: conference Realignment rumors

    Quote Originally Posted by HFCS View Post
    I read on hawkeyereport.com that the Big 12 and ACC are going to dissolve then merge, and only keep the 12 best football schools while getting rid of the "dead weight" in both conferences. I was shocked to find that ISU would be among the teams left out.

    No reason not to believe that.
    I'm not going to believe anything about Istate that comes off of hawkeyereport or hawknation unless there is a good source and link that comes with it.



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    Re: Wanted: conference Realignment rumors

    that blog article >>>>>>>>>> anything espn has ever written on realignment

    People wonder why mainstream media is losing ground to the web, there's your answer. There's a ton of crap on the web, but that reads like a detailed blueprint of what's going on and mainstream articles are written like a slanted dumbed down kindergarten version of what's really happening.

    I did not realize Florida is making 10 million a year on their tier 3 rights, that's practically LHN money isn't it?

    I see more and more people suggesting the Rose and Champions bowl could be semifinals, I do not like that at all. I see how people can guess at it though.

    Why should the Pac 12 get to play a horrible Illinois Big Ten champ in a playoff when the Big 12 champ and SEC champ always have to play each other. I'm with the SEC on just taking the top 4 teams, if it has to be conference champs reseed them so the Pac 12 doesn't get a gift the years a team like Illinois lucks into the B10 title. Reseeding them will usually result in a Big 12/SEC championship game and looking at BCS success that's pretty much how it should be. Outside of USC nothing suggests that pac12/big10 winner vs SEC/Big 12 winner is logically fair.



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    Re: Wanted: conference Realignment rumors

    This thought is kind of interesting:

    There are some who believe we are going to the best 64 or 72 (more likely IMO) teams. The 4, 16 or 18 team conferences would then be dissolved and new geographic divisions set up ala the NFL. You would then have 8, 8 or 9 team geographic divisions.
    Let's assume 9 team divisions. You would play everyone in your division (8 games) and then play 4 non-divisional matchups. The winner of each division (best in division record...doesn't take non-divisional into account) would then form the basis for an 8 team playoff.
    Teams that didn't make the playoffs could still go to a "bowl game" based on certain criteria.
    ISU's geographic division could be something like:

    ISU
    Iowa
    Nebraska
    Minnesota
    Wisconsin
    Illinois
    Northwestern
    Missouri
    Indiana


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    Re: Wanted: conference Realignment rumors

    Quote Originally Posted by isuno1fan View Post
    This thought is kind of interesting:

    There are some who believe we are going to the best 64 or 72 (more likely IMO) teams. The 4, 16 or 18 team conferences would then be dissolved and new geographic divisions set up ala the NFL. You would then have 8, 8 or 9 team geographic divisions.
    Let's assume 9 team divisions. You would play everyone in your division (8 games) and then play 4 non-divisional matchups. The winner of each division (best in division record...doesn't take non-divisional into account) would then form the basis for an 8 team playoff.
    Teams that didn't make the playoffs could still go to a "bowl game" based on certain criteria.
    ISU's geographic division could be something like:

    ISU
    Iowa
    Nebraska
    Minnesota
    Wisconsin
    Illinois
    Northwestern
    Missouri
    Indiana
    I think things like this only happen if there's successful lawsuit against the BCS and/or NCAA.

    In most ways I think ISU is better off in the current setup although obviously they'd have a MUCH better chance to win a football conference like you laid out in terms of the competition not being great.

    If the Big East keeps its AQ this year as expected, you'll now have 75 teams (BCS teams + ND) who can claim to have highest status level ripped from them in any realignment. BYU and Hawaii would have pretty excellent damages claims too since one played a BCS game and one was a somewhat recent national champion. If Navy has an AQ why don't AFA and Army? So now we're up to maybe 79 teams and that's before we even look at the fact that programs like Nevada and Southern Miss have had significantly more success than many of the 79 mentioned already.


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    Re: Wanted: conference Realignment rumors

    Quote Originally Posted by HFCS View Post
    I think things like this only happen if there's successful lawsuit against the BCS and/or NCAA.

    In most ways I think ISU is better off in the current setup although obviously they'd have a MUCH better chance to win a football conference like you laid out in terms of the competition not being great.

    If the Big East keeps its AQ this year as expected, you'll now have 75 teams (BCS teams + ND) who can claim to have highest status level ripped from them in any realignment. BYU and Hawaii would have pretty excellent damages claims too since one played a BCS game and one was a somewhat recent national champion. If Navy has an AQ why don't AFA and Army? So now we're up to maybe 79 teams and that's before we even look at the fact that programs like Nevada and Southern Miss have had significantly more success than many of the 79 mentioned already.

    You could easily move to 80 teams and 10 team divisions. Heck...you could even take it higher than that.
    I don't know if I buy into this being a possibility, but gotta say it makes some level of sense. You could include everyone and bring a sense of geography back through the divisional arrangement.



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    Re: Wanted: conference Realignment rumors

    Are we still looking into the SEC?



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    Re: Wanted: conference Realignment rumors

    Quote Originally Posted by isuno1fan View Post
    You could easily move to 80 teams and 10 team divisions. Heck...you could even take it higher than that.
    I don't know if I buy into this being a possibility, but gotta say it makes some level of sense. You could include everyone and bring a sense of geography back through the divisional arrangement.
    I agree it would make sense, if that happened I'd rather the conference season only be 8 games and the leagues play two games against a partner league.

    Just pointing out that an exclusive 64 team structure would have been law suit city 2 years ago when only 6-7 teams would have had major damages claims, now over 20 teams would have significant claims because 9 new BCS have already been elevated in two years (TCU, Utah, BSU, SMU, SDSU, Houston, Memphis, UCF, Navy)... BYU even passed on the Big East AQ bid.



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    Re: Wanted: conference Realignment rumors

    Quote Originally Posted by isuno1fan View Post
    This thought is kind of interesting:

    There are some who believe we are going to the best 64 or 72 (more likely IMO) teams. The 4, 16 or 18 team conferences would then be dissolved and new geographic divisions set up ala the NFL. You would then have 8, 8 or 9 team geographic divisions.
    Let's assume 9 team divisions. You would play everyone in your division (8 games) and then play 4 non-divisional matchups. The winner of each division (best in division record...doesn't take non-divisional into account) would then form the basis for an 8 team playoff.
    Teams that didn't make the playoffs could still go to a "bowl game" based on certain criteria.
    ISU's geographic division could be something like:

    ISU
    Iowa
    Nebraska
    Minnesota
    Wisconsin
    Illinois
    Northwestern
    Missouri
    Indiana
    I agree that would be an interesting set-up.

    The only problem I see is the fact that the SE and Texas "divisions" could (and would) recruit, and get, the best players. They would win the tourney more than any midwest division could.

    How would that not relegate these NE and Midwest pods to second tier status? Even if the TV money was equally shared, the pods confined to poor recruiting geography would suffer. As a result, recruiting to these pods would lose out because all of the studs want to play for a championship.



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    Re: Wanted: conference Realignment rumors

    Thank god someone posted about this realignment stuff. Can't believe there hasn't been any threads on this yet.



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    Re: Wanted: conference Realignment rumors

    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow Snow View Post
    I agree that would be an interesting set-up.

    The only problem I see is the fact that the SE and Texas "divisions" could (and would) recruit, and get, the best players. They would win the tourney more than any midwest division could.

    How would that not relegate these NE and Midwest pods to second tier status? Even if the TV money was equally shared, the pods confined to poor recruiting geography would suffer. As a result, recruiting to these pods would lose out because all of the studs want to play for a championship.
    Don't think that is any different than what happens now for the most part



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    Re: Wanted: conference Realignment rumors

    The big 12 meets this week i think. Expect news to start leaking after that.



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