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    USS Iowa underway right now . . .

    http://new.livestream.com/accounts/725962/events/898014

    I'm having computer problems today. This weekend is the 75th anniversary of the opening of the Golden Gate Bridge. Iowa's tow, from Richmond, on the bay, to Los Angeles began this afternoon.

    There was a live cam feed earlier today. Right now there is supposed to be live photo and text updates. Perhaps someone here will mention if they find another good cam feed.

    The Marin headlands are expected to have a number of spectators watching as the 14 story high, three-football-fields long, 58,000 ton speedster (33 knots-plus when moving under her own power) big guy slips under the Golden Gate.

    What a day to have a computer problem. . . .


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    Re: USS Iowa underway right now . . .

    https://www.facebook.com/pacificbattleship

    There's this at Facebook. Is it safe to join Facebook? Don't know a thing about it.

    20 minutes ago:
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater


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    Now THAT's a photo! Very cool . . .

    The Associated Press: USS Iowa on way to new home in Southern California



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    USS Iowa ships out under the Golden Gate Bridge on its way to Los Angeles

    By Gary Peterson
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    05/26/2012 05:42:10 PM PDT


    Three days after the Japanese surrender ended World War II, the destroyer USS Davison dropped anchor just off Yokosuka. When its crew members awoke the next morning, they found the battleship USS Iowa parked next door.
    "It made our destroyer look like a rowboat," recalled John Hogan, who served aboard the Davison. "It was really something."


    Hogan, an El Cerrito resident, was one of several dozen people who gathered Saturday morning at the Port of Richmond to bid bon voyage to the Iowa, arguably the most storied warship of the 20th century. It embarked on a four-day tug down to San Pedro, where it will be permanently docked and repurposed as a museum.


    Rest of the story:
    http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_207194...e-and-out-gate


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    Re: USS Iowa underway right now . . .

    Would have loved to be there for the send-off and the 75th anniversary of the Golden Gate Bridge (celebrations started today). As much as I'm not a fan of LA, I would like to see the Iowa when it's officially open for business as a museum in San Pedro. Cool stuff.


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    Re:USS Iowa underway right now . . .

    True story which every Iowan knows:

    The Iowa was to have the surrender of the Japanese take place on its deck because it had a bathtub, which eased the pain of FDR's polio. When he died, his bastard from MO vp had it switched to the Missouri.



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    Re: USS Iowa underway right now . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by CyLoboClone View Post
    True story which every Iowan knows:

    The Iowa was to have the surrender of the Japanese take place on its deck because it had a bathtub, which eased the pain of FDR's polio. When he died, his bastard from MO vp had it switched to the Missouri.


    I visited the USS Missouri a month ago. They described it as an Iowa-class battleship.

    They also said that MacArthur orchestrated the event, but didn't say anything about Truman switching it from the Iowa. That is an interesting story. Do you have a link for it?


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    Re:USS Iowa underway right now . . .

    I just remember it from the capital your in 4th grade. The Nevada, Missouri, and Iowa are all Iowa class, off the top of my head- if that guide was ******* with us, it was this long con of trolls, cuz I talk about it 24 years later.



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    Re: USS Iowa underway right now . . .

    Cool! I had been in the USN for about 6 months when one of the turrets of the USS Iowa exploded, around 1989. There is a small memorial on Norfolk Naval Station about the explosion. I read later there was a possible scandal, one of the Gunners Mates was allegedly gay and intentionally caused the explosion to either kill his lover or commit suicide (I don't remember exactly). I have heard the same story regarding President Truman and the USS Missouri. I was lucky enough to board the USS New Jersey when I was stationed at Guam, what an enormous ship, amazing. Compared to today's aircraft carriers, the battleship is small, but for the time, huge.
    By the way, I went to the USS South Dakota's memorial in Sioux Falls a few years ago, boy was that disappointing. Anyone else been there?


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    Re: USS Iowa underway right now . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by CyLoboClone View Post
    I just remember it from the capital your in 4th grade. The Nevada, Missouri, and Iowa are all Iowa class, off the top of my head- if that guide was ******* with us, it was this long con of trolls, cuz I talk about it 24 years later.
    Nevada wasn't Iowa class. They were the Iowa, Missouri, New Jersey, and Wisconsin.



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    Re: USS Iowa underway right now . . .

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    Re: USS Iowa underway right now . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by sclotz View Post
    Cool! I had been in the USN for about 6 months when one of the turrets of the USS Iowa exploded, around 1989. There is a small memorial on Norfolk Naval Station about the explosion. I read later there was a possible scandal, one of the Gunners Mates was allegedly gay and intentionally caused the explosion to either kill his lover or commit suicide (I don't remember exactly). . . .
    This original conclusion of the USN investigation has been ripped apart, and the Navy apologized to the families of the sailors involved. Today, I believe the cause of the explosion is considered unknown.

    Off the top of my head:
    Six 110-pounds bags of powder (actually, sticks similar in size to school room chalk) are loaded into the breech (my nomenclature likely isn't perfect) to fire a 2700-lb. armor-piercing shell to distance (23 miles).

    New Jersey, recommissioned in 1982, reportedly had trouble with inconsistent powder discharge; the powder had been stored since the 1950s, when all Iowas were placed into reserve. The old powder sticks, subsequently, were remixed with new (newer?) powder in an effort to correct the problem. At $400 million-plus to return an Iowa to the 1980s fleet, why, we civilians might wonder, would you not produce new powder?

    Anyway, after firing a shell, a blast of compressed air is discharged through the barrel of the 16-inch naval rifle to clear it of any burning residue (the cloth bags). IIRC, speculation is that such residue is what led to the explosion.

    BTW, the explosion was enormous and devastating. It would have sent a lesser ship to the bottom quickly. Iowa's safety features, however, worked as designed; the terrible explosion was contained within the turret and did not reach the powder room near the ship's bottom.

    You know, it required 429,000 man days to design the big guy, and the blueprints weighed 175 tons. Construction from the day laid down (June 1940) until commissioned on George Washington's birthday in 1943, required more than 4 million man days. Material from three dozen states flowed into the Brooklyn Navy Yard. Building such a ship was a massive undertaking.

    I have read that some experts believe the Iowa Class vessels to be the finest Navy ships ever built. Only the Iowas carried 50 caliber naval rifles, which allowed them to match the firepower of the 18.1 inch/45 caliber rifles carried by the largest battleships ever built, the Japanese Yamato and Musashi. (At 27 knots, much inferior to the Iowas cruiser-like speed of 33 knots.)

    A Proceedings magazine article evaluated the outcome had Iowa met Yamato during the Battle of Leyte Gulf, October 1944. Fascinating read. Though, I wonder if an Iowa-Bismarck wouldn't have been more interesting. (Thank the gods these match ups never occurred; the loss of life would have been high. Bismarck easily dispatched the British cruiser HMS Hood, which disappeared in a matter of seconds after receiving the German ship's shells. Of more than 1400 men aboard Hood, three survived. Days later, when the Bismarck sank, only a few hundred German sailors lived out of a crew of more than 2200.)

    The USS Iowa veterans Web site carries lots of interesting information, including a compelling story about the day a USN destroyer fired a live torpedo at Iowa in November 1943. Aboard Iowa that day were the President of the United States and all of the country's top military brass, including the Chief of Naval Operations. He was not a happy admiral. (General Information button > The USS Porter Story)
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    Anyway. . . .

    The Iowa Class (FDR personally directed that the lead ship of this new class be named Iowa):

    61 USS Iowa
    62 USS New Jersey
    63 USS Missouri
    64 USS Wisconsin
    65 USS Illinois (25 percent built, scrapped)
    66 USS Kentucky (75 percent built, scrapped)

    File:Battle Group Alpha (Midway, Iowa) underway, 1987.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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    Re: USS Iowa underway right now . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Cycsk View Post
    I visited the USS Missouri a month ago. They described it as an Iowa-class battleship.

    They also said that MacArthur orchestrated the event, but didn't say anything about Truman switching it from the Iowa. That is an interesting story. Do you have a link for it?
    Several months before the Japanese surrender, September 2, 1945, iirc, the Iowa was outfitted with radio gear so that the surrender could be broadcast to San Francisco, and from there around the world. The equipment was installed in Iowa because she was expected to host the ceremony.

    As it turned out, Missouri was that ship, and Iowa, nearby, was the guard of honor and carried Adm. Bull Halsey's flag that day. Iowa's radio equipment relayed the ceremony aboard the Missouri to the world.

    Citation? Merlyn Wong, president of Historic Ships Memorial Pacific Square relayed this information during a phone conversation. But, it's got to be out there in print, at the moment just not sure where.


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    Re: USS Iowa underway right now . . .

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHSn1pjynng]USS IOWA FIRES 16 INCH GUNS - YouTube[/ame]


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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTCN7dPXDfQ&feature=fvwp]U.S.S Iowa - YouTube[/ame]


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    I bet that captain is deaf if he is still alive.



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