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    Twelve team Big 12 could include Notre Dame.

    My ideal scenario would be to move back to a 12 team conference by the end of the summer; if Florida State is ready to jump. Add Clemson, Pittsburgh, or Miami as the 12th school. The 12th school should have FSU's input giving them a partner to feel more at home in the transition to the big 12(i.e. Clemson or Miami) If the 12th member can tie in West Virginia and make them feel more at home(i.e. Pitt), would be a bonus but not required..

    Finally add Notre Dame as a full member in all sports except football with the agreement they play 3+ Big 12 conference schools per year and all 12 members within a 4 year period at least once(Playing Oklahoma, Florida State, Texas, etc. in separate seasons). The ND game could be scheduled as an early season matchup, fill a bye week during the conference season, or end of season thanksgiving matchup- if ND doesn’t already have one. This would allow Notre Dame to keep their football independence and be in a conference allowing them control of their 3rd tier rights (ND tv network and make a pile of cash).

    The ND option would work for any 12 team league if that conference allowed its members to retain its own 3rd tier rights (The big 12 is the only league that allows this). The ACC could adjust to allow this especially if we raid their conference for 11 and 12.

    This would allow ND to have marquee matchups in the recruiting hotbeds of Texas and Florida and still keep traditional matchups with USC, Michigan, Purdue, etc.. If ND joins the Big 10 or ACC those leagues would try to squeeze 9 conference games out of ND- the big 10 would also control a 10th game with the Big 10/pac12 matchup in future scheduling.

    The Conference Championship requirement for the 4 team playoff by big 10 and now the acc is total bs and would force ND to join a conference as a full member. (bs unless that conference was the big 12)


    Last edited by cysocool; 05-17-2012 at 08:10 AM. Reason: big 10/pac12 not big 10/acc

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    Re: Twelve team Big 12 could include Notre Dame.

    It could also include the bayside tigers or the pheonix suns but like nd will never ever ever happen



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    Re: Twelve team Big 12 could include Notre Dame.

    i was expecting some news, not op-ed. Ankeny and Valley could join the MVC.



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    Re: Twelve team Big 12 could include Notre Dame.

    Notre Dame only brings value if they are a full member. *¹

    1.) See: Big East Conference



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    Re: Twelve team Big 12 could include Notre Dame.

    I actually agree Notre Dame could be a member of the Big 12, but only as a full member. Schools might be FSU, Clemson, G Tech and ND. But there are other possibilities like BYU, Pitt, BC or others. Whomever ND would want as a partner, they would get. With the Longhorn Network yielding $15 mil a year for tier three, the Big 12 could be a windfall for ND. I assume they are looking hard.



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    Re: Twelve team Big 12 could include Notre Dame.

    Quote Originally Posted by ketelmeister View Post
    I actually agree Notre Dame could be a member of the Big 12, but only as a full member. Schools might be FSU, Clemson, G Tech and ND. But there are other possibilities like BYU, Pitt, BC or others. Whomever ND would want as a partner, they would get. With the Longhorn Network yielding $15 mil a year for tier three, the Big 12 could be a windfall for ND. I assume they are looking hard.
    You're right there are other possibilities as you stated. I agree with your assessment(bowlsby thread) that a 12 team league is ideal for Iowa State. 12 teams allow's 4 non conference games and this would fit well with ND and the big12. ND would be like a 9th conference game option in this alliance and would allow FSU the option play Florida, ND, and a couple warm up games. The same would be true for Oklahoma and Texas.

    It would allow ISU to schedule Iowa, ND or anther BCS school and still have a couple warmup schools.



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    Re: Twelve team Big 12 could include Notre Dame.

    Cleveland Browns.

    Yeah they have sucked in recent years, but they would get the Big 12 right into the middle of some fertile Big 10 recruiting grounds, and they have a stadium that could accommodate the con championship game every other year.

    Browns do have a strong tradition with the endzones and the dog pound and all the masks and woofing...so they are a recognizable brand already. Add them to the Big 12 and their potential would be limitless.

    To hell with ND, or FSU, lets bring in these guys. Unlike FSU which might be back on the upswing, ISU could plan on racking up W vs those guys in most years.


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    Re: Twelve team Big 12 could include Notre Dame.

    Don't we have an ***Official Super Mega Enormous Gigantic Expansion Thread*** for things like this?



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    Re: Twelve team Big 12 could include Notre Dame.

    This is stupid.


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    Re: Twelve team Big 12 could include Notre Dame.

    Quote Originally Posted by bringmagicback View Post
    It could also include the bayside tigers or the pheonix suns but like nd will never ever ever happen
    Bayside wont come in without the Valley Bulldogs. They are a package deal...



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    Re: Twelve team Big 12 could include Notre Dame.

    In before the merge



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    Re: Twelve team Big 12 could include Notre Dame.

    Quote Originally Posted by Incyte View Post
    This is stupid.
    It certainly is. Makes me yearn for the days of negative rep.



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    Re: Twelve team Big 12 could include Notre Dame.

    Quote Originally Posted by Omaha Cy View Post
    Cleveland Browns.

    Yeah they have sucked in recent years, but they would get the Big 12 right into the middle of some fertile Big 10 recruiting grounds, and they have a stadium that could accommodate the con championship game every other year.

    Browns do have a strong tradition with the endzones and the dog pound and all the masks and woofing...so they are a recognizable brand already. Add them to the Big 12 and their potential would be limitless.

    To hell with ND, or FSU, lets bring in these guys. Unlike FSU which might be back on the upswing, ISU could plan on racking up W vs those guys in most years.
    **** that. Go after the Steelers. Not the browns. Like the poster in my first grade classroom said, "aim for the moon, because if you miss, you'll still land amongst the stars."

    I always thought that was a euphemism for big 12 expansion.


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    Re: Twelve team Big 12 could include Notre Dame.

    Quote Originally Posted by Incyte View Post
    This is stupid.

    this



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    Re: Twelve team Big 12 could include Notre Dame.

    People that think we are ever going back to 8 conference games are crazy.



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