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    My wife and I are having a fence installed(in Ames) along the west side of our property. we are afraid our neighbor's garden, at the rear of the property, is on our side of the line. We have found the front west side property marker, but I can't find the rear west. I called a surveyor to get an estimate for a professional survey, and they want 400.00 bucks just to do the one side. IMO that is a lot for something that has already been surveyed and marked. Does anyone have any suggestions as to a low cost way of finding the other marker? I am pretty sure the markers are all plastic, so i don't think a metal detector will work.



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    Re:puttng up a new fence

    How old is your home? I know my parents house has metal property markers, but they have an older home.

    Can you locate the marker on the other side of your property and then measure over so you at least have an idea of where to start looking?



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    Re: puttng up a new fence

    Quote Originally Posted by theantiAIRBHG View Post
    How old is your home? I know my parents house has metal property markers, but they have an older home.

    Can you locate the marker on the other side of your property and then measure over so you at least have an idea of where to start looking?
    Our house was built in '98. I am unable to find the east markers as well. I had already thought of finding the other marker and just measuring over, but to no avail.



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    Re: puttng up a new fence

    Do you have your abstract? That will show easements (if any) and you may be able to use utility boxes to determine where the stack should be. Or just measure it out from the abstract.

    Also, I think our stacks were plastic coated steel so a metal detector could work.



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    Re: puttng up a new fence

    in my experience, the marker pins are metal rods. usually with a cap of some sort on top.


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    Re: puttng up a new fence

    Quote Originally Posted by cdnlngld View Post
    My wife and I are having a fence installed(in Ames) along the west side of our property. we are afraid our neighbor's garden, at the rear of the property, is on our side of the line. We have found the front west side property marker, but I can't find the rear west. I called a surveyor to get an estimate for a professional survey, and they want 400.00 bucks just to do the one side. IMO that is a lot for something that has already been surveyed and marked. Does anyone have any suggestions as to a low cost way of finding the other marker? I am pretty sure the markers are all plastic, so i don't think a metal detector will work.
    The caps are plastic, but they should be covering steel rebar. Surveyors find them using metal detectors.

    If you can't find it using a metal detector, you would need to know your property dimensions. If you have a good high quality tape measure, pull it straight along the property line to where you think the back corner of your property should be, then take a spade and dig a bit in that area. The pin might be buried a foot or so underground. Make sure the tape is completely straight (doesn't sag in the middle) and is in line with the property line or you'll be far enough off that you will probably not find it.

    Those are just my tips after spending a summer working as a surveyor. Of course, the surveyor has a lot better tools to locate it, but those tools are expensive.



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    Re: puttng up a new fence

    Quote Originally Posted by agrabes View Post
    The caps are plastic, but they should be covering steel rebar. Surveyors find them using metal detectors.

    If you can't find it using a metal detector, you would need to know your property dimensions. If you have a good high quality tape measure, pull it straight along the property line to where you think the back corner of your property should be, then take a spade and dig a bit in that area. The pin might be buried a foot or so underground. Make sure the tape is completely straight (doesn't sag in the middle) and is in line with the property line or you'll be far enough off that you will probably not find it.

    Those are just my tips after spending a summer working as a surveyor. Of course, the surveyor has a lot better tools to locate it, but those tools are expensive.
    Ok, it sounds like I am just looking at the cap then. I do know the property dimensions 70 x 130. The only problem with this marker is i am having to run the tape along the longest side(more room for error)of the property. I will look into renting a metal detector to find the pin. If I can't find a metal detector, or can't find the pin with the metal detector, is there anyone who might be able to help me out? Or does anyone know who might be able to find the markers(without having to spend a small fortune?



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    Re: puttng up a new fence

    Quote Originally Posted by cdnlngld View Post
    My wife and I are having a fence installed(in Ames) along the west side of our property. we are afraid our neighbor's garden, at the rear of the property, is on our side of the line. We have found the front west side property marker, but I can't find the rear west. I called a surveyor to get an estimate for a professional survey, and they want 400.00 bucks just to do the one side. IMO that is a lot for something that has already been surveyed and marked. Does anyone have any suggestions as to a low cost way of finding the other marker? I am pretty sure the markers are all plastic, so i don't think a metal detector will work.
    Professional surveying is very very very expensive. If the property pins are plastic, then whoever surveyed the property didn't do it in line with Iowa Code. State code requires the monuments are able to be detected by "commonly used magnetic or electronic equipment" Working with most the surveyors who do work in the Ames area, I highly doubt they are plastic monuments.

    How long ago was your neighborhood platted? If it was done in the last 20 years, I would try and get a copy of the recorded subdivision plat and get the dimensions off that. If you can find the front west and the rear east, finding the rear west should be pretty easy.



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    Re: puttng up a new fence

    Quote Originally Posted by cdnlngld View Post
    Ok, it sounds like I am just looking at the cap then. I do know the property dimensions 70 x 130. The only problem with this marker is i am having to run the tape along the longest side(more room for error)of the property. I will look into renting a metal detector to find the pin. If I can't find a metal detector, or can't find the pin with the metal detector, is there anyone who might be able to help me out? Or does anyone know who might be able to find the markers(without having to spend a small fortune?
    I'm not sure if you would have any other option but to go with getting it surveyed if you want to be sure you're on. Probably the other option would be to work it out with your neighbor and just pick a location for the fence that you can both agree on. Your best bet will probably be to find the other front property pin. It will be easier because you know where the one front pin is so you can measure how far it is from the street or sidewalk and then go to where you think the far edge of your property is and look around there. Once you have 2 pins established it might be easier to find others.

    Also, a tip for using metal detectors -- the rebar pins should give you a very strong signal. Walk around the area, swinging it back and forth quickly. The ones I've used start out with a low pitched noise for no metal and get higher and higher pitched as you get closer. A nail or something will give you a bit of a rise in pitch, but a property pin should give you a solid ear splitting squeal.



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    Re: puttng up a new fence

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    Professional surveying is very very very expensive. If the property pins are plastic, then whoever surveyed the property didn't do it in line with Iowa Code. State code requires the monuments are able to be detected by "commonly used magnetic or electronic equipment" Working with most the surveyors who do work in the Ames area, I highly doubt they are plastic monuments.

    How long ago was your neighborhood platted? If it was done in the last 20 years, I would try and get a copy of the recorded subdivision plat and get the dimensions off that. If you can find the front west and the rear east, finding the rear west should be pretty easy.
    Got the dims from the city assessors web site. found the SE pin trying to find the NE pin.



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    Re: puttng up a new fence

    let me fence build



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    Re: puttng up a new fence

    Quote Originally Posted by cdnlngld View Post
    Got the dims from the city assessors web site. found the SE pin trying to find the NE pin.


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    I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

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    Re: puttng up a new fence

    u r welcome let me know of anyone else needs me to look for them :}



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    LOL what is this?



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