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    7-5 new requirement for a bowl?

    I know this has been thrown out there as discussion among the execs of college football, but I didn't figure it may actually happen. Good article in yahoo sports today and this is just part of it...

    Here's all you need to know about the playoff discussions at this week's BCS meeting - Yahoo! Sports

    What about the move to outlaw 6-6 teams from bowl games: That will definitely spur some discussion and debate. In that scenario, several bowls likely would be put out of business.

    On one level – the Vanderbilt/Washington State/Syracuse/Duke/Indiana/Iowa State level – getting to 6-6 and going to a bowl is an accomplishment. Commissioners are cognizant of that and don't want to keep their lower-echelon programs from hitting a high point on occasion.

    That's also a concern for conferences such as the Mid-American and Sun Belt, which need some 6-6 teams from larger leagues to offer up opponents for their teams in bowls such as the Motor City and New Orleans. If the number of bowls decreases, the loss of bids will directly affect some of the better teams in those lower-tier leagues.

    But on a macro level, most people agree that 35 bowls is too many and 6-6 teams are too lousy to justify the expense and effort of going to play on a Tuesday night in December for ESPN's programming pleasure.

    "We've reduced the value of bowls by having so many of them. "You don't want them to be meaningless wallpaper," Scott said.

    "It has put so much strain on the entire system," one athletic director said. "Teams, conferences, sponsors all feel it. Typically these bowls have been hanging by a thread, and somebody's having to bear the cost of keeping them going."


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    By the way, I'm surprised Larry Scott of the PAC is for this. They already play 9 conference games, now the Big10 game will act as a 10th conference game, and many schools in the PAC already schedule another high profile non-conf game like ND. 11 BCS teams out of 12 and you have to win at least 7? Not many PAC teams would go bowling.



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    Re: 7-5 new requirement for a bowl?

    im down for a 7-5 requirement




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    Re: 7-5 new requirement for a bowl?

    How about 6 FBS wins. Like it used to be.



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    Re: 7-5 new requirement for a bowl?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cincyclone View Post
    How about 6 FBS wins. Like it used to be.
    That's not a bad idea.



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    Re: 7-5 new requirement for a bowl?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cincyclone View Post
    How about 6 FBS wins. Like it used to be.
    I'd like this.



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    Re: 7-5 new requirement for a bowl?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cincyclone View Post
    How about 6 FBS wins. Like it used to be.

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    Re: 7-5 new requirement for a bowl?

    I dont like the requirement. Why? Because i'm not a fan on it being based on an arbitrary w-l total to begin with. Us at 6-6 in the big 12 is more worthy than most 7-5 PAC or B10 teams (and with our new 9 team conference schedule, just as worthy as any 7-5 SEC team that played a bunch of cupcakes). Us at 6-6 is more worthy than just about any MAC team that gets a bowl. Yet all of them will be bowl eligible thanks to their easier schedules.

    The solution isnt to raise the bar to 7 wins, the solution is to finally start determining postseason eligibility like we do the NCAA tournament- by looking at things comprehensively, beyond just overall w-l, and looking at the overall strength of the team. Maybe you say instead '6-6, with an overall rating (use BCS formula maybe?) in the top 60' or whatever.



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    Re: 7-5 new requirement for a bowl?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cincyclone View Post
    How about 6 FBS wins. Like it used to be.
    that would kill UNI and every team in that division that counts on a big pay day from a FBS road game.


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    Re: 7-5 new requirement for a bowl?

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    I dont like the requirement. Why? Because i'm not a fan on it being based on an arbitrary w-l total to begin with. Us at 6-6 in the big 12 is more worthy than most 7-5 PAC or B10 teams (and with our new 9 team conference schedule, just as worthy as any 7-5 SEC team that played a bunch of cupcakes). Us at 6-6 is more worthy than just about any MAC team that gets a bowl. Yet all of them will be bowl eligible thanks to their easier schedules.

    The solution isnt to raise the bar to 7 wins, the solution is to finally start determining postseason eligibility like we do the NCAA tournament- by looking at things comprehensively, beyond just overall w-l, and looking at the overall strength of the team. Maybe you say instead '6-6, with an overall rating (use BCS formula maybe?) in the top 60' or whatever.
    This is inline with my thinking. A 6-6 Big 12 team deserves that bid a lot more than an 8-4 MAC/WAC/MWC/CUSA/Sun Belt team.



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    Re: 7-5 new requirement for a bowl?

    I don't get why anyone wants to raise the requirements for bowls. There is only one bowl game that matters anyways. If you don't like watching two 6-6 teams play then don't watch.


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    Re: 7-5 new requirement for a bowl?

    I like this idea. Would this also mean less bowl games?



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    Re: 7-5 new requirement for a bowl?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman38 View Post
    I don't get why anyone wants to raise the requirements for bowls. There is only one bowl game that matters anyways. If you don't like watching two 6-6 teams play then don't watch.
    I don't get it, either. Who cares how many there are?

    If you're 6-6 or 7-5, the bowl really only matters to two fanbases. Requiring 7 wins isn't going to raise the prestige of a bowl in the eyes of people who don't care anyway.


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    Re: 7-5 new requirement for a bowl?

    Screw that. You guys realize if this requirement was in place we would not have gone to any bowl games the last 3 years? 6-6 in the 9-team Big 12 with Iowa on our schedule this year is equivalent to 7-5 or 8-4 in most BCS conferences. Why would you guys who support this requirement want to screw ISU out of bowl games? The more bowl games for ISU, the better.



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    Re: 7-5 new requirement for a bowl?

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    I don't get it, either. Who cares how many there are?
    I'd think the only reason to care is if the payouts for the lesser bowls got diluted to the point that the conferences were losing money by sending teams to to them. I don't know if that's happening, but perhaps it is an unspoken reason for the 7-5 proposal and the desire to get rid of some bowls.


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    Re: 7-5 new requirement for a bowl?

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    I don't get it, either. Who cares how many there are?

    If you're 6-6 or 7-5, the bowl really only matters to two fanbases. Requiring 7 wins isn't going to raise the prestige of a bowl in the eyes of people who don't care anyway.
    Agreed. I love people who are personally offended by the idea of 2 teams playing when all they have to do to not see it is to change the channel.

    Anyways, what else are you going to do in december? I'll take all the football i can get. During bowl season i watch most bowls, hell, during regular season i'm usually down for some MACtion during the week.



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