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    Will conservatives denounce Harry Potter?

    From the following article: Outing gives Potter passages new meaning

    With author J.K. Rowling's revelation that master wizard Albus Dumbledore is gay...



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    Re: Will conservatives denounce Harry Potter?

    I honestly can't wait for the day when this is no longer a big deal -- and this goes for everyone.

    I know it takes a lot of courage to come out, but this is a fictional character we're talking about. It's not even an attribute that contributes to the story... I feel like that it's just a mini-stunt to put Harry Potter back in the headlines.

    Conservatives will hate this aspect of Harry Potter. Not only does the book "practice" witchcraft, but now one of the most prolific characters is homosexual, even though this was not spelled out within the books.


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    Re: Will conservatives denounce Harry Potter?

    I thought conservatives already hated Harry Potter, what with the witchcraft and all. They've tried to ban the books from libraries all over the country.

    Also, I don't think this was a publicity stunt at all, Rowling was answering a question about the backstory of a character, and she answered it. Period. To many of us who have read the books it didn't really come as a surprise.



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    Re: Will conservatives denounce Harry Potter?

    Being a conservative, I personally don't give a crap about J.K. Rowling and the Harry Potter series. If she wants to make one of her characters in a book gay, fine. Make him gay.

    Who cares? I've never thought that reading a book, watching a movie, or playing a video game has any effect on people.



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    Re: Will conservatives denounce Harry Potter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue52 View Post
    Being a conservative, I personally don't give a crap about J.K. Rowling and the Harry Potter series. If she wants to make one of her characters in a book gay, fine. Make him gay.

    Who cares? I've never thought that reading a book, watching a movie, or playing a video game has any effect on people.
    I could care less about Harry Potter. Harry could turn into a flaming gay son of Satan for all I care. If I am bringing my child up correctly, he will learn the difference between fantasy and reality.



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    Re: Will conservatives denounce Harry Potter?

    Quote Originally Posted by CloneAggie View Post
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    I am a conservative and I could care less. But I think I am one of those fiscal conservatives and social liberals, so both parties are my enemy.


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    Re: Will conservatives denounce Harry Potter?

    Question about this: Am I the only one that still sees this as a close friendship, and tends to see this "revelation" more as an attempt for attention?


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    Re: Will conservatives denounce Harry Potter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone62 View Post
    Question about this: Am I the only one that still sees this as a close friendship, and tends to see this "revelation" more as an attempt for attention?
    I agree that it's definitely an attempt for some attention.



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    Re: Will conservatives denounce Harry Potter?

    My problem isn't with Harry Potter; it is with the over-the-top parents, commentators and educators that equate preferring that your children not read the Harry Potter books to child abuse.

    I have two, extremely well-read teenaged daughters who we've discouraged from reading the series for religious reasons, and I've had more people get "in my face" about that than any other single subject in our lives.

    My wife and I aren't dictating what your kid can or cannot read, and we aren't judging you or your kid. Just get out of our faces and let us raise our kids the way WE want.

    On a related issue, I see that the "Banned Books" people are including some of Heinlein's more racy works as being "banned" because they are not allowed in some high school libraries. Frankly, high school libraries don't have Penthouse or Hustler in them, either, and I don't see THEM on the "Banned Books" lists.


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    Re: Will conservatives denounce Harry Potter?

    I think if you make the connection that Christians in America also tend to be a good number of those on conservative side (and that connection is made in a lot of arguments from the abortion issue to the gay issue), then a great deal of the conservative side denounced Harry Potter years ago considering it deals with witchcraft, sorcery, and the occult. Dumbledore being gay would only be icing on the denouncement cake (and no, I haven't denounced it - I've seen parts of some of the movies and plan on reading the books eventually. If I denounced Harry Potter I'd have to give up my addiction to Diablo II).


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    Re: Will conservatives denounce Harry Potter?

    Quote Originally Posted by herbiedoobie View Post
    My problem isn't with Harry Potter; it is with the over-the-top parents, commentators and educators that equate preferring that your children not read the Harry Potter books to child abuse.

    I have two, extremely well-read teenaged daughters who we've discouraged from reading the series for religious reasons, and I've had more people get "in my face" about that than any other single subject in our lives.
    I don't think it's child abuse, I just think it's really really odd that your religious values, or the religious values of your daughters, would be in any way challenged by a series of novels. I just don't get it. Especially if they are teenagers.

    What, specifically, in the books do you object to "for religious reasons"? Have you read the books, or are you objecting based on other peoples recommendations?



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    Re: Will conservatives denounce Harry Potter?

    Quote Originally Posted by bawbie View Post
    I don't think it's child abuse, I just think it's really really odd that your religious values, or the religious values of your daughters, would be in any way challenged by a series of novels. I just don't get it. Especially if they are teenagers.

    What, specifically, in the books do you object to "for religious reasons"? Have you read the books, or are you objecting based on other peoples recommendations?
    I object to treating witchcraft as anything other than direct communication to Satan. I don't think it does my children any good to read a book that portrays witchcraft as something harmless. Once they're adults, they can read what they want. But until then, I'm responsible for what they are exposed to.


    Teenagers are much more impressionable and easily led than when they are younger. Your average 8-12 year old sees right and wrong much more clearly than a teen. And our desires are in line with our actions.


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    Re: Will conservatives denounce Harry Potter?

    Quote Originally Posted by herbiedoobie View Post
    I object to treating witchcraft as anything other than direct communication to Satan. I don't think it does my children any good to read a book that portrays witchcraft as something harmless. Once they're adults, they can read what they want. But until then, I'm responsible for what they are exposed to.
    A fantasy, make-believe word where some people have magical powers is automatically devil-worship in your book? Does this apply to every fantasy-fiction series? Lord of the Rings? Chronicles of Narnia? Mathilda? Star Wars? Where do you draw the line on sheltering your kids from make-believe worlds?

    But I'm still curious. Have you ever read the books?

    Quote Originally Posted by herbiedoobie View Post
    And our desires are in line with our actions.
    What does that even mean?


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    Re: Will conservatives denounce Harry Potter?

    I guess I consider myself a pretty big social conservative but I could care less about who has/has not read these books. I would have no problem with my hypothetical children reading them.


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    Re: Will conservatives denounce Harry Potter?

    Quote Originally Posted by bawbie View Post
    A fantasy, make-believe word where some people have magical powers is automatically devil-worship in your book? Does this apply to every fantasy-fiction series? Lord of the Rings? Chronicles of Narnia? Mathilda? Star Wars? Where do you draw the line on sheltering your kids from make-believe worlds?

    But I'm still curious. Have you ever read the books?

    What does that even mean?
    Just to make myself clear, I'm somewhere in the middle of the issue, but that's not the point. The point is who are you to tell someone how to raise their children without their consent and who are you to judge the way they raise their children based on whether or not they let their children read a book series depending on how it relates to their religious beliefs. If they're not abusing their children in any way, they're providing for their children's needs, and the kids are coming out well-adjusted, who are you to judge, especially when it comes to the reading of a series of books? Last time I checked not allowing their children to read a series of books wasn't classified as abuse, neglect, and the vast majority tend to grow up okay when not allowed to read particular books. I wasn't allowed to play or read Dungeons & Dragons when I grew up - I turned out okay. How would you like it if I started criticizing your parenting skills if you wouldn't let your children read the Left Behind series when growing up? After all, it deals with one of the Christian perspectives about the end of the world. Is it not okay while other so-called "fantasy end-of-the-world" novel series are okay because they don't deal with Christianity? I mean, after all, where do you draw the line?


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