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    Re: Will there be any true freshman playing this fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy View Post
    Aka and Big Dawg will see time for sure.
    Unless they are just tha good or we really need them to play in depth positions I would love for them to get that redshirt year. It really helps players, especially lineman, acclimate the the college game. These two especially will be even better next year with a full year of college S&C. I also want them here and at their peak for as long as possible. Redshirting will get them closer to that peak with 4 years left to play.

    Just think if we had the luxury to redshirt Irving last year. We would have him for another year longer. Same with George. He is just now coming into his own and he will be a Jr this season. He will play solid minutes this year but will only have a chance to start full time next year as a Sr. I'd love to have him for that extra year.


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    Re: Will there be any true freshman playing this fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by cyhiphopp View Post
    Unless they are just tha good or we really need them to play in depth positions I would love for them to get that redshirt year. It really helps players, especially lineman, acclimate the the college game. These two especially will be even better next year with a full year of college S&C. I also want them here and at their peak for as long as possible. Redshirting will get them closer to that peak with 4 years left to play.

    Just think if we had the luxury to redshirt Irving last year. We would have him for another year longer.

    I agree. As long as there are no more injuries at guard, Williams should redshirt, assuming he isn't good enough to start from day 1. I doubt that happens.

    Aka should redshirt as long as he isn't one of the top 4 defensive ends.



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    Re: Will there be any true freshman playing this fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by twojman View Post
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    So you think an 18 year old true freshman would have a better completion percentage and better grasp of the playbook. You think that is even possible?
    Possible yes, likely no.
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    Re: Will there be any true freshman playing this fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by isufan View Post
    I agree. As long as there are no more injuries at guard, Williams should redshirt, assuming he isn't good enough to start from day 1. I doubt that happens.

    Aka should redshirt as long as he isn't one of the top 4 defensive ends.

    Oh, and don't forget that Big Dawg was hurt all last year. I think it would be good for him to use this year to get stronger and be that much more prepared for next season.


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    Re: Will there be any true freshman playing this fall?

    I think Aka coming in and playing could be a good thing. That means he's as good as expected and he can have solid pt before he's asked to step in and start next season. Knott and Klein played their freshman seasons for that very reason.


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    Re: Will there be any true freshman playing this fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by dualthreat View Post
    I think Aka coming in and playing could be a good thing. That means he's as good as expected and he can have solid pt before he's asked to step in and start next season. Knott and Klein played their freshman seasons for that very reason.

    Right, but even the coaches had admitted they wish they could have redshirted Klein and Knott. If there is enough quality bodies in front of the freshmen, they need a redshirt year.



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    Re: Will there be any true freshman playing this fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by twojman View Post
    Possible yes, likely no.
    Just quit. Richardson is better anyways, and even he's not ready yet after already being here a year.


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    Re: Will there be any true freshman playing this fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by twojman View Post
    Maybe a QB?


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    Re: Will there be any true freshman playing this fall?

    I expect the Manatee linebacker not to redshirt and have a special teams role similar to Klein, Knott, and Miller as freshmen.



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    Re: Will there be any true freshman playing this fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by sp8815 View Post
    I expect the Manatee linebacker not to redshirt and have a special teams role similar to Klein, Knott, and Miller as freshmen.
    I could see that.

    George, Miller, Morgan, & Morton, are all the backup linebackers who would take up all the special teams LB responsibilities. Either George or Miller will likely be starting. So that leaves 3 backup linebackers to take special team duties. Do we usually use more than that? I would guess so?



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    Re: Will there be any true freshman playing this fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by dualthreat View Post
    I think Aka coming in and playing could be a good thing. That means he's as good as expected and he can have solid pt before he's asked to step in and start next season. Knott and Klein played their freshman seasons for that very reason.
    I see what your saying but think of him coming and getting in the weight room for a year. He is already 6'4" 255, with a year under Yancy could come out looking about 270. Put that opposite Irving in 2013 and watch the opposing QB wet their pants looking at our D Ends!



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    Re: Will there be any true freshman playing this fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by sp8815 View Post
    I expect the Manatee linebacker not to redshirt and have a special teams role similar to Klein, Knott, and Miller as freshmen.

    I don't disagree that it might happen. I hope that we can stay healthy at linebacker and get by with Knott, Klein, George, Miller, and Morton for basically two linebacker spots. I hope all three freshmen linebackers can redshirt though.

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    Re: Will there be any true freshman playing this fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by twojman View Post
    I am not saying he is absolutely awesome, I am just saying our QB situation is not good at all. The completion % for both guys is not good and they are both turnover prone. Neither one can hit open guys, it is amazing. Here's to hoping they improve by leaps and bounds, this would get ISU to average QB play.
    And judging by CPR's quote, he feels it's better than you think that it is.

    I'd expect Netten to play, but I really, really hope they save Aka, since there are so many ends. Morrissey as well. I could see White playing, in the same way that Knott and Klein played special teams as frosh.


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    Re: Will there be any true freshman playing this fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aclone View Post
    And judging by CPR's quote, he feels it's better than you think that it is.

    I'd expect Netten to play, but I really, really hope they save Aka, since there are so many ends. Morrissey as well. I could see White playing, in the same way that Knott and Klein played special teams as frosh.

    Which quote was that? Just wondering.



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    Re: Will there be any true freshman playing this fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by isufan View Post
    Which quote was that? Just wondering.

    Agreed...

    What have the QB's done to make anyone think this offense will be better than #8 tops in the Big 12? We have only been in the top half one time since Seneca left and I believe that was 2005 when ISU was #5. The offense has been TERRIBLE for years and we have seen these QB's are turnover machines. I hope they improve a ton before next season, even if they do they will be average.



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