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    Question for Fellow Graphic Designers.

    I'm trying to accomplish this effect with some of my designs, but I don't know how to achieve such a thing. I've been reading about how to do it, but everyone seems to have a different way of doing it. Also do you know of any printing places that can do this? I want black on black like this:








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    Re: Question for Fellow Graphic Designers.

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    Re: Question for Fellow Graphic Designers.

    If only that was the case.



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    Re: Question for Fellow Graphic Designers.

    I wish I could help (I can't since I don't know photoshop), but are you talking about using a gradient?



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    Re: Question for Fellow Graphic Designers.

    Quote Originally Posted by MLawrence View Post
    I wish I could help (I can't since I don't know photoshop), but are you talking about using a gradient?
    No, not a gradient and not in photoshop (indesign actually). A gradient is a gradual changing from one color to another.


    It's called a "Spot Varnish" basically it's just a clear coat that goes over the top of any matte color to make it pop.

    I'm just looking for someone to help with how to set up such a file so that it prints with clear instead of a color.



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    Re: Question for Fellow Graphic Designers.

    Depends on the printer. Ask them for a file spec. I've seen some that want black on white and others that want any color over transparent.



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    Re: Question for Fellow Graphic Designers.

    Quote Originally Posted by CyBer View Post
    No, not a gradient and not in photoshop (indesign actually). A gradient is a gradual changing from one color to another.


    It's called a "Spot Varnish" basically it's just a clear coat that goes over the top of any matte color to make it pop.

    I'm just looking for someone to help with how to set up such a file so that it prints with clear instead of a color.
    Just set up an extra color, click the box to make it a spot color and name it clear, or whatever suits your fancy.

    To be honest though, to really get it to pop, you could also add a dull varnish to the other parts and really make the gloss varnish stand out. I did a cover this way one time and it worked out really nice.

    Just make sure you let the printer know what you are looking for with the spot color.



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    Re: Question for Fellow Graphic Designers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonefan94 View Post
    Just set up an extra color, click the box to make it a spot color and name it clear, or whatever suits your fancy.

    To be honest though, to really get it to pop, you could also add a dull varnish to the other parts and really make the gloss varnish stand out. I did a cover this way one time and it worked out really nice.

    Just make sure you let the printer know what you are looking for with the spot color.
    Alright sounds good, where did you get yours printed?



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    Re: Question for Fellow Graphic Designers.

    Quote Originally Posted by CyBer View Post
    Alright sounds good, where did you get yours printed?
    I'm in Illinois, sorry. Off hand I dont' remember the last place. I've moved to almost 100% web design now, so very little print work has come my way in the last year and a half.

    Anybody worth any salt as a printer should be able to do it. I don't really know any shops in Iowa, just start calling around or hopefully someone here can point you in the right direction. Spot varnish is pretty common.


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    Re: Question for Fellow Graphic Designers.

    Alright I'll check them out, hopefully copy works can do it.



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    Re: Question for Fellow Graphic Designers.

    I'm sure I'm in too late, but a coworker of mine who is a graphic designer basically said to talk with the printer about the spec and basically tell them the color of the letter(s) you need the effect on and they should be able to do it.

    Doing it on a computer, he showed me really quickly an easy way of rasterizing, then using a gradient on the layer, then doing a layer style...then tweaking by hand using other tools (like an eraser). This was all in photoshop by the way, not InDesign. He says he normally does it all by hand, but said if you want to do it real fast, you could do it with the above.



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    Re: Question for Fellow Graphic Designers.

    You aren't too late, I won't be doing this for a while. I think all I need to do is put a color over the top and tell the printer that I want that color as a varnish. Also I'm going to use the tip earlier about putting a varnish on the black to make it more Matte to have the letters stand out more.



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    Re: Question for Fellow Graphic Designers.

    Quote Originally Posted by CyBer View Post
    You aren't too late, I won't be doing this for a while. I think all I need to do is put a color over the top and tell the printer that I want that color as a varnish. Also I'm going to use the tip earlier about putting a varnish on the black to make it more Matte to have the letters stand out more.
    This is what he said:
    "Yeah so glossy on a matte background. Ask them cost and how they need it defined, if that's something the designer provides in a graphics file proof, or something they need to be involved with, and if the designer needs to supply it, you can ask what the standard is, and how it needs to be defined in the file's color profile"

    He also said "glossy..varnish..whatever"...he's a bit older school graphic designer too. I don't think he's had to do this for awhile.


    Last edited by marothisu; 04-10-2012 at 03:44 PM.

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