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    BCS playoff proposals

    College football officials down to 4 options for future of college football postseason.

    BCS leaders focus on four postseason options – USATODAY.com

    I thought it interesting that one option is to go with a 4 team playoff and have 8 "BCS" bowls for those who didn't make the final four. Be in the top 20 and make a BCS bowl...



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    Re: BCS playoff proposals

    4 team semi final, higher seeds host NC game at a neutral site every year


    only way i'd like it better is if it was a 6 team playoff with #1 and #2 getting a first round bye


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    Re: BCS playoff proposals

    I really don't like the first proposal with the Rose bowl still taking a Big10 or PAC school even if they are in the top four. What happens if one of those leagues has a bad year with one team dominating to go undefeated? They wouldn't have to play any other top team to get to the title game. Why should they get that advantage?

    Also, if there is still a formula for selection it needs to be public. The current system with mystery computer algorithms puts too much doubt in who deserves to be in.



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    Re: BCS playoff proposals

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonehomer View Post
    I really don't like the first proposal with the Rose bowl still taking a Big10 or PAC school even if they are in the top four. What happens if one of those leagues has a bad year with one team dominating to go undefeated? They wouldn't have to play any other top team to get to the title game. Why should they get that advantage?

    Also, if there is still a formula for selection it needs to be public. The current system with mystery computer algorithms puts too much doubt in who deserves to be in.
    Those 'mystery computer algorithms' are much more reliable and accurate than the human vote. Id be in favor of increasing the computers weight.

    But yeah, its ridiculous that the B10\PAC should always get the Rose bowl.

    I'm also no fan of not having neutral sites for the whole playoff. Keep it like the bowl games and NCAA tournament have been, at neutral sites.


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    Re: BCS playoff proposals

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Clonehomer View Post
    I really don't like the first proposal with the Rose bowl still taking a Big10 or PAC school even if they are in the top four. What happens if one of those leagues has a bad year with one team dominating to go undefeated? They wouldn't have to play any other top team to get to the title game. Why should they get that advantage?Also, if there is still a formula for selection it needs to be public. The current system with mystery computer algorithms puts too much doubt in who deserves to be in.
    Those 'mystery computer algorithms' are much more reliable and accurate than the human vote. Id be in favor of increasing the computers weight.But yeah, its ridiculous that the B10\PAC should always get the Rose bowl.I'm also no fan of not having neutral sites for the whole playoff. Keep it like the bowl games and NCAA tournament have been, at neutral sites.
    I have no problems with computer polling. Just make the formula available to the public and teams. That way teams know how much away games and opponent strength is calculated so they can schedule accordingly.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Clonehomer View Post
    I have no problems with computer polling. Just make the formula available to the public and teams. That way teams know how much away games and opponent strength is calculated so they can schedule accordingly.
    Also, coaches can know exactly how low they need to slot in their competition for a playoff spot on their coaches poll ballot.


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    Re: BCS playoff proposals

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonehomer View Post
    I really don't like the first proposal with the Rose bowl still taking a Big10 or PAC school even if they are in the top four. What happens if one of those leagues has a bad year with one team dominating to go undefeated? They wouldn't have to play any other top team to get to the title game. Why should they get that advantage?

    Also, if there is still a formula for selection it needs to be public. The current system with mystery computer algorithms puts too much doubt in who deserves to be in.
    Agreed about the B10 and P12 locked into the Rose. Here are two possible scenarios:

    Rose: #2 vs. #12
    BCS1: #1 vs. #5
    BCS2: #3 vs. #4

    In this scenario, could #3 jump #2? If not, why does the B10/P12 team get that advantage? #1 has to play #5, but #2 gets to beat #12?

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    Rose #1 vs. #2
    BCS1: #3 vs. #6
    BCS2: #4 vs. #5

    I don't know when the last time the Rose bowl was a true #1 vs. #2, but this could happen. Why have a playoff if we're going to match up #1 vs. #2 in the 1st game? Of course this scenario is why all the B10 homers are going to say its fair that the first scenario exists...They'll say in the years that non-Big10/Pac12 teams get screwed in the first scenario that this scenario will happen just as much. But scenario #1 will happen much more often.

    I just think it's lame that the B10 can put a veto to the whole playoff/bowl system because they get to rake in the dough from their Rose bowl alliance and don't want to lose that cash cow...as if they need another cash cow.



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    Re: BCS playoff proposals

    Rose Bowl isn't going to get this special treatment they are outside their mind


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    Re: BCS playoff proposals

    If we suspend reality for a moment and not factor in the money grab that the BCS is...

    Why not go back to the old system and just add a plus-one? In all the years the final AP vote was what determined the NC how many times were they wrong or there were co-champs? If you simply did a plus-one Nebraska & Michgan would play in '97 and it would be settled.

    I don't get the fascination with playoffs. FCS has playoffs - they suck. CFB is the best sport in America and also the only one without a playoff. Imo that's not a coincidence. Why are people so desperate to **** with CFB?

    No matter what your playoffs look like somebody is going to have a legit b**** that they didn't get included.


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    Re: BCS playoff proposals

    no matter what they go with preseaon polls have To get cut. no polls till week 6 or like mid September otherwise its reputation and history putting teams in holes from day one



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    Re: BCS playoff proposals

    Quote Originally Posted by cyman05 View Post
    College football officials down to 4 options for future of college football postseason.

    BCS leaders focus on four postseason options – USATODAY.com

    I thought it interesting that one option is to go with a 4 team playoff and have 8 "BCS" bowls for those who didn't make the final four. Be in the top 20 and make a BCS bowl...

    Hard to imagine a team's fans being able to travel to one game one week and then to another game the following week IF then win. The weeks before the game are usually pretty important for mobilizing a fan base.

    The bigger the playoff, the bigger this problem.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycsk View Post
    Hard to imagine a team's fans being able to travel to one game one week and then to another game the following week IF then win. The weeks before the game are usually pretty important for mobilizing a fan base.

    The bigger the playoff, the bigger this problem.
    With a +1 at neutral sites they could have the semi finals pre-holidays (Sat 22 DEC 2012) and the final game two weeks later after the new year (Sat 05 JAN 2013). Two weeks is plenty of time for fans to plan the trip especially if their team is in the NC game. With 3 rounds it could be 15 Dec, 29 Dec, 12 Jan. If it is more games, I can see how it may become unwieldy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by VeloClone View Post
    With a +1 at neutral sites they could have the semi finals pre-holidays (Sat 22 DEC 2012) and the final game two weeks later after the new year (Sat 05 JAN 2013). Two weeks is plenty of time for fans to plan the trip especially if their team is in the NC game. With 3 rounds it could be 15 Dec, 29 Dec, 12 Jan. If it is more games, I can see how it may become unwieldy.

    Doubles the cost to fans, but probably worth it to attend a national championship.

    Still, two weeks isn't very much time to put together another bowl trip for fans, band, etc., especially at that time of the year (with holidays).



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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycsk View Post
    Doubles the cost to fans, but probably worth it to attend a national championship.

    Still, two weeks isn't very much time to put together another bowl trip for fans, band, etc., especially at that time of the year (with holidays).
    It's more time than the short week between rounds of the NCAA tourney. Granted you aren't trying to bring 30,000 to the NCAA tourney.


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