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    I know there has already been plenty of advice handed out regarding yards but I was hoping for some advice more specific to my yard. A few years back we (my wife) inadvertently overseeded with a type of fescue in lieu of bluegrass. Now my yard looks like crap with the clumps throughout. I've already spot-applied Roundup but I'm not sure what my overall plan is or should be. Based on previous threads, I have been planning on putting on a thin layer of topsoil, then overseeding, then composting but I'm not sure if that is a good plan of action. My other alternative is to completely kill the yard in manageable bites that I could nurse back individually. I took some pictures of what I am dealing with and have attached them below. I can understand if some of the experts are tired of giving advice but I'm kind of at my wits end. Any help would be appreciated. TIA



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    Re: More Yard Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Bwalk View Post
    I know there has already been plenty of advice handed out regarding yards but I was hoping for some advice more specific to my yard. A few years back we (my wife) inadvertently overseeded with a type of fescue in lieu of bluegrass. Now my yard looks like crap with the clumps throughout. I've already spot-applied Roundup but I'm not sure what my overall plan is or should be. Based on previous threads, I have been planning on putting on a thin layer of topsoil, then overseeding, then composting but I'm not sure if that is a good plan of action. My other alternative is to completely kill the yard in manageable bites that I could nurse back individually. I took some pictures of what I am dealing with and have attached them below. I can understand if some of the experts are tired of giving advice but I'm kind of at my wits end. Any help would be appreciated. TIA
    Yikes! I don't know what the turf experts on here would tell you, but I think I'd strip it and lay down sod.




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    Looks like a kill, rototill, & sod situation to me.


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    Re: More Yard Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Bwalk View Post
    I know there has already been plenty of advice handed out regarding yards but I was hoping for some advice more specific to my yard. A few years back we (my wife) inadvertently overseeded with a type of fescue in lieu of bluegrass. Now my yard looks like crap with the clumps throughout. I've already spot-applied Roundup but I'm not sure what my overall plan is or should be. Based on previous threads, I have been planning on putting on a thin layer of topsoil, then overseeding, then composting but I'm not sure if that is a good plan of action. My other alternative is to completely kill the yard in manageable bites that I could nurse back individually. I took some pictures of what I am dealing with and have attached them below. I can understand if some of the experts are tired of giving advice but I'm kind of at my wits end. Any help would be appreciated. TIA
    I would not do anything if it was my yard. Ryegrass and Fescue grows like wildfire in the spring. Bluegrass grows at a much slower rate, once the bluegrass catches up later in the spring it will all blend in. Your yard looks like the rough on my golf course. If you can't stand it call a lawn care company in your area.



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    You should have sprayed it last Aug 20th, tilled it and seeded it on Labor Day Weekend. Then over seeded it a month ago.

    If you dont want to tear it up, keep spraying the fecsue with RU and over seed it this labor day weekend. It will take even better if you aerate your yard before you seed it.


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    Re: More Yard Advice

    I would get a new wife and then put down sod.


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    Re: More Yard Advice

    You could try this in those spots.

    Scotts Turf Builder EZ Seed


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    Re: More Yard Advice

    Not being a dick, but looking your neighbors lawn, it looks like you have more problems than just fescue. I would tear it up piece by piece and redo.



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    Re: More Yard Advice

    When i moved into my new home the yard was junk so i rounded it up, leveled it some and reseeded it with turf type fescue. It really isnt that hard after you get the layer of dead grass up. That way you start new with a basically weed free yard that is all desired grass



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    Re: More Yard Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by kingcy View Post
    You could try this in those spots.

    Scotts Turf Builder EZ Seed
    The TV ad puts in a disclaimer at the end about watering.

    All seed requires constant watering. Seeds germinates in 3-4 weeks. It needs watering every 4 hours or so. After it germinates, it needs water. It's a lot of work and time consuming. And it's best left to the sod farms.

    Ideally, kill the lawn, rototill, put in an irrigation system and sod. $7,000 or so? Get some quotes from landscapers. There are many to choose from.

    Doesn't look like you have many trees. The summer sun is hard of grass. It needs water.



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    Re: More Yard Advice

    The good news is that my neighbors yard looked similar to yours last year when it was vacant. In the fall, a couple moved in, threw some money into it without a total redu, and now this spring it's banging. So have a little patients, get some professionals to come in, and you will be on your way.



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    Ouch.
    1) don't kill in patches because your new seed may not match each time you do it unless you buy in bulk.

    2) best - remove and sod. Don't have to have irrigation, but it's nice.

    3) roundup kill in August. Not now. Rent a tiller the next weekend. Then seed heavily with bluegrass and fertilizer. $500 is my best estimate. You may want to roll after seeding.you may lay some hay in areas that may erode in heavy rain. Water.



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    Re: More Yard Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUAgronomist View Post
    Looks like a kill, rototill, & sod situation me.
    I cannot think of how to take a cool season perennial grass out of a cool season perennial grass.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Let's Go State View Post
    I cannot think of how to take a cool season perennial grass out of a cool season perennial grass.
    That's the main problem. Obviously spot spraying with Roundup and then removing the carcasses could work to "selectively" remove the fescue but that's a lot of work to put in. May be worth it to try during the spring and summer and if it doesn't get to a respectable state then nuke the whole thing as start over in the fall.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Let's Go State View Post
    Ouch.
    1) don't kill in patches because your new seed may not match each time you do it unless you buy in bulk.

    2) best - remove and sod. Don't have to have irrigation, but it's nice.

    3) roundup kill in August. Not now. Rent a tiller the next weekend. Then seed heavily with bluegrass and fertilizer. $500 is my best estimate. You may want to roll after seeding.you may lay some hay in areas that may erode in heavy rain. Water.
    I've used an erosion control mat over a new seeding and it worked very well. Protects the seeds from birds, water erosion and helps keep them moist. I used the biodegradable type so that you don't have to come back and remove it. It's a lot of work for a big area but I used it on a couple of small areas where I had large trees and their stumps removed. Still had to overseed it for a couple of years afterward.
    http://www.americanexcelsior.com/ero...ionblanket.php

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    SULIS - Sustainable Urban Landscape Information Series: U of MN.


    Looking at his photos I don't think that the guy applied fertilizer and pre-emergent herbicide early this spring or he wouldn't have had the weeds and dandy lions and also the bluegrass would have come on a lot stronger (more like his neighbor's).

    Removal, reseeding and establishing a new lawn takes a lot of constant work (fighting the weather and weeds is bad enough) so the sod route might be the easiest and fastest way to go in this case.


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