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    Build your teams: ISU All-Star “Final Four”

    A twist on the recent (and recurring) “all-time Cyclone Lineup” thread.

    Instead of an ultimate ISU All-Star team, try this: Create 4 teams from among your top Iowa State players — a starting 5 and one 6th man on each squad.

    Additional challenge: Make the teams as balanced as possible. Imagine this is a 4-team tournament, and you want each team to have an equal shot at winning the “title.”

    Rule 1: No starting unit may include more than 2 players who were prominent teammates on a real Iowa State team. (Reason: We could end up just choosing the top 4 actual teams).

    Rule 2: Stay close to traditional G-G-C-F-F for each roster. It’s OK to move players one step out of position, or have some imbalanced rosters, depending on what works for your fictional units – just make it realistic.

    Rules 1&2 do not apply to sixth man. However, you may want those players to mesh well with the starters’ positions to better effect.

    Optional: I designed my lineups only with players I actually saw in action. But making it a rule might limit participation among younger fans (especially considering limits of Rule 1). If you do choose to follow my lead on that, specify when your roster-building begins.

    I found out this process can take a little time. I'll post my teams shortly in a response.



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    Re: Build your teams: ISU All-Star “Final Four”

    Too complicated; did not play.



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    Re: Build your teams: ISU All-Star “Final Four”

    Cyclones500 “ISU Final Four” —*Since 1979-80

    Team A
    Tinsley
    Hoiberg
    Alexander
    White
    S. Johnson
    6th: T. Allen

    Team B
    Thigpen
    Willoughby
    Uthoff
    Michalik
    Brackins
    6th: Ron Harris

    Team C
    Hornacek
    Stinson
    Cato
    Grayer
    Estes
    6th: Meyer

    Team D
    Holloway
    Stevens
    Homan
    Fizer
    Pratt
    6th: Sullivan


    Last edited by cyclones500; 03-24-2012 at 06:30 PM. Reason: Messed up my starting point season.

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    Re: Build your teams: ISU All-Star “Final Four”

    I thought this would be a take on discussion a friend and I had this year. What four ISU team's would make up a ISU final four?

    99-00 is a given what would your other 3 be?

    team from I believe 86 the sweet sixteen team
    95-96 the year Dedric and Co. were seniors
    other spot is up for debate I'm flipping between 00-01 and this year's team.



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    Re: Build your teams: ISU All-Star “Final Four”

    Quote Originally Posted by DistrictCyclone View Post
    Too complicated; did not play.
    +1



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    Re: Build your teams: ISU All-Star “Final Four”

    Quote Originally Posted by CyclonesRulzzz View Post
    I thought this would be a take on discussion a friend and I had this year. What four ISU team's would make up a ISU final four?

    99-00 is a given what would your other 3 be?

    team from I believe 86 the sweet sixteen team
    95-96 the year Dedric and Co. were seniors
    other spot is up for debate I'm flipping between 00-01 and this year's team.
    I like that idea, too. You should make a new thread, in fact.

    My knowledge of ISU teams goes back only so far, but I might be able to get an 8-team seeded bracket.

    1. 1999-2000
    8. 2004-05

    4. 1985-86
    5. 2011-12

    3. 2000-01
    6. 1995-96

    2. 1996-97
    7. 1991-92

    Definitely could be disagreements on inclusion and seedings ... just like a real tournament.



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    Re: Build your teams: ISU All-Star “Final Four”

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclones500 View Post
    I like that idea, too. You should make a new thread, in fact.

    My knowledge of ISU teams goes back only so far, but I might be able to get an 8-team seeded bracket.

    1. 1999-2000
    8. 2004-05

    4. 1985-86
    5. 2011-12

    3. 2000-01
    6. 1995-96

    2. 1996-97
    7. 1991-92

    Definitely could be disagreements on inclusion and seedings ... just like a real tournament.
    Babb on Grayer in the first round? Now that would be interesting!



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    Re: Build your teams: ISU All-Star “Final Four”

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclones500 View Post
    I like that idea, too. You should make a new thread, in fact.

    My knowledge of ISU teams goes back only so far, but I might be able to get an 8-team seeded bracket.

    1. 1999-2000
    8. 2004-05

    4. 1985-86
    5. 2011-12

    3. 2000-01
    6. 1995-96

    2. 1996-97
    7. 1991-92

    Definitely could be disagreements on inclusion and seedings ... just like a real tournament.
    I like this idea better


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    Re: Build your teams: ISU All-Star “Final Four”

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclones500 View Post
    I like that idea, too. You should make a new thread, in fact.

    My knowledge of ISU teams goes back only so far, but I might be able to get an 8-team seeded bracket.

    1. 1999-2000
    8. 2004-05

    4. 1985-86
    5. 2011-12

    3. 2000-01
    6. 1995-96

    2. 1996-97
    7. 1991-92

    Definitely could be disagreements on inclusion and seedings ... just like a real tournament.
    Not bad. I think 1 and 2 seeds would hold up. Fizer vs Cato would be a fun match-up. I think guards though on 99-00 would destroy 96-97.



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    Re: Build your teams: ISU All-Star “Final Four”

    U should start a poll and each day have a vote on each matchup.. Advance the winner


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    Re: Build your teams: ISU All-Star “Final Four”

    Quote Originally Posted by IHavNoCyCash View Post
    U should start a poll and each day have a vote on each matchup.. Advance the winner
    Should I take my seeding and post a new thread?

    I'd have to keep up with the polling.

    (I'd welcome anyone else to do it instead )



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    Re: Build your teams: ISU All-Star “Final Four”

    Team A:
    PG - Jamal Tinsley
    SG - Jeff Hornacek
    SF - Rahshon Clark
    PF - Julius Michalik
    C - Jared Homan
    6th Justus Thigpen

    Team B
    PG - Will Blalock
    SG - Dedric Willoughby
    SF - Jeff Grayer
    PF - Jackson Vroman
    C - Loren Meyer
    6th - Craig Brackins

    Team C
    PG - Jacy Holloway
    SG - Fred Hoiberg
    SF - Barry Stevens
    PF - Marcus Fizer
    C - Kelvin Cato
    6th Robert Estes

    Team D
    PG - Diante Garrett
    SG - Curtis Stinson
    SF - Ron Harris
    PF - Royce White
    C - Victor Alexander
    6th - Jake Sullivan



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    Re: Build your teams: ISU All-Star “Final Four”

    Quote Originally Posted by xboxfever View Post
    Team A:
    PG - Jamal Tinsley
    SG - Jeff Hornacek
    SF - Rahshon Clark
    PF - Julius Michalik
    C - Jared Homan
    6th Justus Thigpen

    Team B
    PG - Will Blalock
    SG - Dedric Willoughby
    SF - Jeff Grayer
    PF - Jackson Vroman
    C - Loren Meyer
    6th - Craig Brackins

    Team C
    PG - Jacy Holloway
    SG - Fred Hoiberg
    SF - Barry Stevens
    PF - Marcus Fizer
    C - Kelvin Cato
    6th Robert Estes

    Team D
    PG - Diante Garrett
    SG - Curtis Stinson
    SF - Ron Harris
    PF - Royce White
    C - Victor Alexander
    6th - Jake Sullivan
    Team c would wipe the court with the other teams


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    Re: Build your teams: ISU All-Star “Final Four”

    Quote Originally Posted by IHavNoCyCash View Post
    Team c would wipe the court with the other teams
    Would probably have the upper hand --- but those other teams aren't bad, either.



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    Re: Build your teams: ISU All-Star “Final Four”

    Quote Originally Posted by IHavNoCyCash View Post
    Team c would wipe the court with the other teams
    I actually think Team B is the best all around team. A pass first point guard, a 3 point ace, the best player in ISU history who can score from everywhere, a low post threat that can hit the mid range jumper, and a center that can score effectively. Team B lacks some defense, but everyone can score.

    Team C has a dominate power forward who can score at will, a shot blocking guru who is not the best offensively, a shooting guard who can do it all, and two other guys who can help out when needed. I would rank the 4 teams like this:

    Team B
    Team C
    Team A
    Team D



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