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    Where does Royce rank?

    among the all-time cyclone greats?

    I say behind Willoughby and Hornacek...I'd put Hoiberg, Johnny Orr (coach), and Gary Thompson as my top 3?

    What do you guys think?

    I'd have Royce in the 3rd tier with Cato, Stinson.


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    Re: Where does Royce rank?

    Not a Grayer or Fizer fan?



    I'd put Fizer as #1.


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    Re: Where does Royce rank?

    High, but lower because his body of work only includes this year.

    Star Players off Big 12 champ years, higher.

    Players from Hoiberg era, higher.

    He was key in bringing ISU back from the depths but I feel in 5 - 8 years he'll be somewhat forgotten up against the other players. Not completely forgotten but not a legend. A little higher than Brackins mainly because White had success while here.


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    Re: Where does Royce rank?

    I can't really these guys exactly, but he is certainly one of my favs.



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    Re: Where does Royce rank?

    Are we talking about fan favorite rank or production rank? If it's fan favorite, he's definitely top 5. Production wise, maybe top 10 because he only had one year here.



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    Re: Where does Royce rank?

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBake View Post
    High, but lower because his body of work only includes this year. Star Players off Big 12 champ years, higher.Players from Hoiberg era, higher.He was key in bringing ISU back from the depths but I feel in 5 - 8 years he'll be somewhat forgotten up against the other players. Not completely forgotten but not a legend. A little higher than Brackins mainly because White had success while here.
    Not a legend? He had legendary dunks and charisma.



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    Re: Where does Royce rank?

    I'd say higher than anybody since Tinsley, but I'm not sure about Stinson.

    Stinson's three years vs White's one is a tough call. I think White is higher though because he was so dominant and because of his off-the-court persona.



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    Re: Where does Royce rank?

    He will have a special spot because of his story of redemption....getting his life back on track while here and growing as a person. That no other ISU player to me can claim.


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    Re: Where does Royce rank?

    Quote Originally Posted by isulive2train View Post
    Not a legend? He had legendary dunks and charisma.
    If I take a step back from this year, in the grand scheme of things not a legend. He could have had that if he came back. But a few years from now he's a great (not legend) that lead us to the NCAA tourney (and not sweet 16, elite 8, final 4). That right there is what hurts his legend stock to me the most.

    But yes, he is probably one of the top 5 best players we've had come through.


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    Re: Where does Royce rank?

    Tinsley at the top



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    Re: Where does Royce rank?

    He might be a top ten guy. Closer to ten than one.


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    Re: Where does Royce rank?

    Top 20.



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    Re: Where does Royce rank?

    Only playing 1 year hurts, he's one of the better Cyclones all time but didn't do enough here to be in the discussion to hang #30 in the rafters at Hilton.



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    Re: Where does Royce rank?

    Tough call due to having only one year and playing the #1 team in the second round...
    That said, he is top-10 to me. A combo of JT and Fizer. Had he stayed another year and led ISU to heights never before experienced, he could have been #1 imo.



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    Re: Where does Royce rank?

    Personally, he's my favorite player I can remember. Granted my years of fandom have been pretty dark (i'm 19...so i really only remember about 2000 on..) His story just amazes me, and his ability to make everything look so effortless is awesome. I love Royce, it's almost unhealthy, and I have no problems admitting it!!



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