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    Middle school offers birth control

    You have got to be freaking kidding! Example 10,000 of the Nanny state agenda.

    Maine middle school to offer birth control - Kids & Parenting - MSNBC.com



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    Re: Middle school offers birth control

    "but under state law such treatment is confidential, and students decide for themselves whether to tell their parents about the services they receive."

    What's the mission of public schools? To educate. Not to dispense pharmaceuticals to students, or allow students to make these types of moral decisions behind their parents' backs.


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    Re: Middle school offers birth control

    Quote Originally Posted by CloneFan65 View Post
    "but under state law such treatment is confidential, and students decide for themselves whether to tell their parents about the services they receive."

    What's the mission of public schools? To educate. Not to dispense pharmaceuticals to students, or allow students to make these types of moral decisions behind their parents' backs.
    I agree 100%. The thought process is that since some parents aren't responsible, the school should take over the whole process from everyone. Ridiculous!

    "A supporter, Richard Verrier, said it’s not enough to depend on parents to protect their children because there may be students who can’t discuss things with their parents."

    This man needs an $*& whipping.



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    Re: Middle school offers birth control

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    Students treated at the centers must first get written parental permission, but under state law such treatment is confidential, and students decide for themselves whether to tell their parents about the services they receive.

    Five of the 134 students who visited King’s health center during the 2006-07 school year reported having sexual intercourse, said Amanda Rowe, lead nurse in Portland’s school health centers.
    One thing that should be pointed out is that parents must first consent to having their children treated there. That's probably not going to ease a lot of people's minds, but if someone is extremely concerned about this issue they can just not consent to have their child go there in the first place.


    The second thing to point out is the situations in which this would actually be used. The article cites 5 out of 134 students who reported having sex. The size of the school population that would be candidates for birth control would therefore be quite small. Of that small population, there is a fairly high probability that some of them have exceptionally crappy parents. This makes it very [un]likely that the child would tell their parents, or that the parents would figure it out or act appropriately if they did know. So... here are the two most likely options:


    1. The child can confidentially get birth control from the school. The child is protected from an unwanted premature pregnancy, so her chances of success are dramatically increased. Additionally, state resources are saved because the state does not have to support a young mother and her child (and all too often the child's child in the future).


    2. The girl continues the status quo of having sex and has a substantial risk of pregnancy. See above for possible consequences.


    These are clearly not the only two, but they strike me as the most likely possibilities. I find option 1 much more attractive.


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    Re: Middle school offers birth control

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    One thing that should be pointed out is that parents must first consent to having their children treated there. That's probably not going to ease a lot of people's minds, but if someone is extremely concerned about this issue they can just not consent to have their child go there in the first place.


    The second thing to point out is the situations in which this would actually be used. The article cites 5 out of 134 students who reported having sex. The size of the school population that would be candidates for birth control would therefore be quite small. Of that small population, there is a fairly high probability that some of them have exceptionally crappy parents. This makes it very likely that the child would tell their parents, or that the parents would figure it out or act appropriately if they did know. So... here are the two most likely options:


    1. The child can confidentially get birth control from the school. The child is protected from an unwanted premature pregnancy, so her chances of success are dramatically increased. Additionally, state resources are saved because the state does not have to support a young mother and her child (and all too often the child's child in the future).


    2. The girl continues the status quo of having sex and has a substantial risk of pregnancy. See above for possible consequences.


    These are clearly not the only two, but they strike me as the most likely possibilities. I find option 1 much more attractive.
    Ok, so we make this a rule for all students, because of a couple horizontally inclined students? Are we expecting that these kids are completely ignorant of the fifty other places to get this? That is a load of BS. This is a great example of the way things work on the liberal side. Put in place all sorts of welfare for people, which then necessitate that the state gets involved in every little detail of everyone's lives to try to lower the use of said welfare.



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    Re: Middle school offers birth control

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    One thing that should be pointed out is that parents must first consent to having their children treated there. That's probably not going to ease a lot of people's minds, but if someone is extremely concerned about this issue they can just not consent to have their child go there in the first place.


    The second thing to point out is the situations in which this would actually be used. The article cites 5 out of 134 students who reported having sex. The size of the school population that would be candidates for birth control would therefore be quite small. Of that small population, there is a fairly high probability that some of them have exceptionally crappy parents. This makes it very likely that the child would tell their parents, or that the parents would figure it out or act appropriately if they did know. So... here are the two most likely options:


    1. The child can confidentially get birth control from the school. The child is protected from an unwanted premature pregnancy, so her chances of success are dramatically increased. Additionally, state resources are saved because the state does not have to support a young mother and her child (and all too often the child's child in the future).


    2. The girl continues the status quo of having sex and has a substantial risk of pregnancy. See above for possible consequences.


    These are clearly not the only two, but they strike me as the most likely possibilities. I find option 1 much more attractive.
    You have the nasty habit of being logical, rather than reactionary and/or confrontational. You must be in the wrong forum.

    (I hereby submit the above statement as my contribution to being confrontational in this thread.)



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    Re: Middle school offers birth control

    Quote Originally Posted by CloneFan65 View Post
    "but under state law such treatment is confidential, and students decide for themselves whether to tell their parents about the services they receive."

    What's the mission of public schools? To educate. Not to dispense pharmaceuticals to students, or allow students to make these types of moral decisions behind their parents' backs.
    The mission of public schools is to indoctronate the children into the liberal way of thinking thus cultivating our young minds to the evils of republicans.

    Seriously, if my kids school district gave my 12 year old daughter birth control pills, I would sue the school district.


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    Quote Originally Posted by brianhos View Post
    The mission of public schools is to indoctronate the children into the liberal way of thinking thus cultivating our young minds to the evils of republicans.

    Seriously, if my kids school district gave my 12 year old daughter birth control pills, I would sue the school district.
    I honestly would too. I hope there are parents in Maine that think the same way, because they should get their butts sued off.



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    Middle School to offer Birth Control

    Maine middle school to offer birth control - Kids & Parenting - MSNBC.com

    Not sure what I think about that. In 6th grade I was all about girls but I dont remember it going any farther than passing notes and hee hee kisses. As a parent this stuff freaks me out. I want my kids to be smart and I hope that I will raise them to be so. Im not really sure how I feel about the birth control. Its a double edge sword. In one hand I feel that its not a schools place to do this and other the other hand I dont want kids (if they are having sex) to not use protection and other methods. Man I just dont remember hearing about such things as a kid.



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    Re: Middle School to offer Birth Control

    Quote Originally Posted by bostinelosd View Post
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    Not sure what I think about that. In 6th grade I was all about girls but I dont remember it going any farther than passing notes and hee hee kisses. As a parent this stuff freaks me out. I want my kids to be smart and I hope that I will raise them to be so. Im not really sure how I feel about the birth control. Its a double edge sword. In one hand I feel that its not a schools place to do this and other the other hand I dont want kids (if they are having sex) to not use protection and other methods. Man I just dont remember hearing about such things as a kid.
    Well ... if we were allowed to have political topics on the front page, you could have already joined in on the discussion!



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    Re: Middle School to offer Birth Control

    Moving this to the thread already on the politics board.


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    Re: Middle School to offer Birth Control

    Quote Originally Posted by CloneAggie View Post
    Well ... if we were allowed to have political topics on the front page, you could have already joined in on the discussion!

    Crap, if this was posted, I apologize. Delete this please.



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    Re: Middle School to offer Birth Control

    Quote Originally Posted by bostinelosd View Post
    Maine middle school to offer birth control - Kids & Parenting - MSNBC.com

    Not sure what I think about that. In 6th grade I was all about girls but I dont remember it going any farther than passing notes and hee hee kisses. As a parent this stuff freaks me out. I want my kids to be smart and I hope that I will raise them to be so. Im not really sure how I feel about the birth control. Its a double edge sword. In one hand I feel that its not a schools place to do this and other the other hand I dont want kids (if they are having sex) to not use protection and other methods. Man I just dont remember hearing about such things as a kid.
    My psychic side says you will soon be banished to the political cave. Or maybe that just happens to me . I posted this article there too. Completely ridiculous. In 6th grade, I had a newfound fascination with watching the girls walk by, but no real idea what I might want to do with them.



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    Re: Middle School to offer Birth Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonepride View Post
    My psychic side says you will soon be banished to the political cave. Or maybe that just happens to me . I posted this article there too. Completely ridiculous. In 6th grade, I had a newfound fascination with watching the girls walk by, but no real idea what I might want to do with them.

    Ha ha, i totally forgot about this place. Im a moron.



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