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    Magic Johnson- The Announcement

    What did people think about this documentary? Magic was my favorite player growing up & I was crushed to hear he would retire.

    Even though he made some bad decisions I admire the way he handled the news as a man and didn't hide from anything. He seems to have made a real difference.



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    Re: Magic Johnson- The Announcement

    Quote Originally Posted by Ficklone02 View Post
    What did people think about this documentary? Magic was my favorite player growing up & I was crushed to hear he would retire.

    Even though he made some bad decisions I admire the way he handled the news as a man and didn't hide from anything. He seems to have made a real difference.

    I thought it was very good. That was one of first major sports stories I remember as a child growing up and will always remember that All-Star game in Orlando. The part of the doc. where he was with the kids and little girl was crying got me choked up. It was sad to see that so many people looked at people with that disease with such disdain and disgust.


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    Re: Magic Johnson- The Announcement

    I caught it the other night flipping channels and ended up watching the rest. I was 12 when this all started, so I just wasn't old enough to understand everything it meant. Was really shocked by the Karl Malone issues. Honestly, I probably learned more about the state of HIV treatment than at any point since Magic's first awareness push in the mid-90's.



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    I wasn't surprised by the Karl Malone comments, he was always a dick.

    Great documentary. The 30 for 30 series has been outstanding for ESPN.



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    I like Magic, but I've never understood how he became the poster boy for HIV. He screwed around (a lot) because of his fame and picked it up that way. Not much heroic there. Then, he was lucky enough to have a ton of money to get the best treatments.

    Compare that with someone like Ryan White, a child who picked it up through a blood transfusion and then struggled... there's a big difference there.

    That being said, it's sad that anyone gets this disease, and I hope we can eradicate it once and for all.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angie View Post
    I like Magic, but I've never understood how he became the poster boy for HIV. He screwed around (a lot) because of his fame and picked it up that way. Not much heroic there. Then, he was lucky enough to have a ton of money to get the best treatments.

    Compare that with someone like Ryan White, a child who picked it up through a blood transfusion and then struggled... there's a big difference there.

    That being said, it's sad that anyone gets this disease, and I hope we can eradicate it once and for all.
    He became the poster child because it was considered a homosexual and drug user disease at that time. His announcement really showed that heterosexuals were at risk. He is was a prime example of the main spread of AIDS...unprotected sex with multiple partners.

    I don't have the numbers but I would guess that chances of contracting AIDS by blood transfusion is far less likely.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tazclone View Post
    He became the poster child because it was considered a homosexual and drug user disease at that time. His announcement really showed that heterosexuals were at risk. He is was a prime example of the main spread of AIDS...unprotected sex with multiple partners.

    I don't have the numbers but I would guess that chances of contracting AIDS by blood transfusion is far less likely.
    It is now. Ryan White contracted it when blood wasn't tested, but it's heavily tested now. There are other similar, less-publicized stories from the early to mid 80s.

    He IS a prime example of the main spread of AIDS (although there are many people who get it through monogamous relationships, and his partners were in the thousands), but he's not a prime example of the main treatment. Or even a moderately attainable treatment for most people. That's more my point.


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    Re: Magic Johnson- The Announcement

    Quote Originally Posted by Angie View Post
    I like Magic, but I've never understood how he became the poster boy for HIV. He screwed around (a lot) because of his fame and picked it up that way. Not much heroic there. Then, he was lucky enough to have a ton of money to get the best treatments.

    Compare that with someone like Ryan White, a child who picked it up through a blood transfusion and then struggled... there's a big difference there.

    That being said, it's sad that anyone gets this disease, and I hope we can eradicate it once and for all.
    He become a poster child because he was one of the most popular athletes of the 80s and 90s. He had the influence of millions and people would listen to Magic. He created such a huge amount of awareness due to his popularity. Magic never hid from his poor choices when he was younger. He has owned up to them. Regardless, he still is fighting the good fight.



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    Quote Originally Posted by acrozier22 View Post
    He become a poster child because he was one of the most popular athletes of the 80s and 90s. He had the influence of millions and people would listen to Magic. He created such a huge amount of awareness due to his popularity. Magic never hid from his poor choices when he was younger. He has owned up to them. Regardless, he still is fighting the good fight.
    As I said, I like Magic, but I just don't think that sex with thousands of people makes you a hero. He did a great job taking on the burden, but that's a LOT easier to do when you have millions and millions of dollars with which to fight it.


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    I kind of agree with Angie here. While I see why he became the poster boy for HIV/AIDS, I had a bit of an issue of people lauding him as some kind of courageous hero. I don't doubt for a second it took a great deal of fortitude to confront a life-threatening disease, but in the end he put himself in that position. I don't see life-long smokers getting lauded for beating lung cancer, or obese individuals getting credit for living life despite having diabetes.

    The other thing that bothered me a bit in the documentary was them villianizing those people who were concerned about playing with Magic. One thing I couldn't help but notice was him always wanting to hug people, particularly during the All-Star game when he had been sweating. Despite have doctors declare that the disease cannot be transmitted by sweat, Magic should have been more understanding of people's hesitations. You cannot blame people from wanting to be cautious about contracting a life threatening disease. I found it a bit unfair that he would put others in a situation where he was hugging other people while sweating, or even being on the court where blood could be easily drawn.

    In the end, it's a great thing that Magic could raise awareness for the disease. But the most telling moment of the whole documentary was when he was talking to the crying little girl, which may just have been the saddest thing I have ever seen. I think this moment showed both Magic's positive effect, proving to people that HIV can happen to anyone and that people with AIDS should not be avoided and cast off, but also showed what a true AIDS victim looks like-- an innocent child who contracted the disease by means that were in no way of her own doing.



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    Re: Magic Johnson- The Announcement

    What did Karl Malone say?



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    Re: Magic Johnson- The Announcement

    Quote Originally Posted by Angie View Post
    As I said, I like Magic, but I just don't think that sex with thousands of people makes you a hero. He did a great job taking on the burden, but that's a LOT easier to do when you have millions and millions of dollars with which to fight it.
    You have answered your own question. Ryan WHite is a unique example and there will be no more Ryan White's now that we test blood heavily. The poster child for this disease probably has to be someone who contracts the disease through sexual or drug using means. As it was said, Magic disproved the notion this was a homosexual disease. He was also a HUGE star. Huge stars are what people want speaking out for their cause.


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    Re: Magic Johnson- The Announcement

    Have not watched it yet but as a piston fan, I loathed him and the lakers but respected him as a player.



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    Re: Magic Johnson- The Announcement

    Quote Originally Posted by Tre4ISU View Post
    You have answered your own question. Ryan WHite is a unique example and there will be no more Ryan White's now that we test blood heavily. The poster child for this disease probably has to be someone who contracts the disease through sexual or drug using means. As it was said, Magic disproved the notion this was a homosexual disease. He was also a HUGE star. Huge stars are what people want speaking out for their cause.
    Today, yes. Even to a higher degree than before in the early 90s, but they were just starting it. Ryan White wasn't as unique when AIDS was first hitting.

    My point is that someone like Ryan White, or the little girl clonefan32 referenced (or any of the children still born with HIV/AIDS) are the true "victims" of the disease in the traditional sense of the word. They didn't do anything wrong to get the disease, and they don't have the funds to fight it. They are 100% at the mercy of it. I don't care if Magic is/was the poster boy, what I'm saying is that he was treated like a hero. He wasn't the hero in the HIV/AIDS fight, people like the above are/were. It's awful that anyone gets it, and it needs to be eradicated yesterday, but it's a position that he put himself in. I get that he's a good face for the disease, that doesn't mean that he deserved the worship he received when he announced. I was, like, 12 years old when he announced, and thought it was ridiculous even back then.

    All of this is moot, I believe it's been announced that Magic doesn't even have the HIV strain present in his blood anymore.


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    Re: Magic Johnson- The Announcement

    Quote Originally Posted by Ficklone02 View Post
    What did people think about this documentary? Magic was my favorite player growing up & I was crushed to hear he would retire. Even though he made some bad decisions I admire the way he handled the news as a man and didn't hide from anything. He seems to have made a real difference.
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