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    NCAA Seeding Food for Thought

    I don't really know if this means anything, but, it was something that I thought was at least interesting and noteworthy. Using Lunardi's bracketology he has ISU as an 8 seed like most of the rest of the civilized world right now. Here are the 6 & 7 seeds:

    6 - Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Murray St, & St Mary's
    7 - Gonzaga, New Mexico, San Diego St, & Creighton

    Notice anything? Six of those teams are "mid-majors" and four of those six teams are done playing for the season...New Mexico has a home game with Air Force & SDSU has a home game with Boise State, both tonight, and then their seasons are done.

    Here are the RPI's and SOS's for those six "mid-majors":

    Murray St: RPI 25, SOS 184
    St. Mary's: RPI 31, SOS 127
    New Mexico: RPI 34, SOS 101
    San Diegot St: RPI 26, SOS 68
    Gonzaga: RPI 23, SOS 85
    Creighton: RPI 24, SOS 115

    Some solid RPIs but a lot of lacking schedules, plus the fact that many of those teams are essentially done playing for the season.

    Meanwhile, Iowa State has a golden opportunity with the Big 12 tournament. Get a solid win over Texas that has an RPI of 58. This is where it gets really interesting. Assuming that ISU would then play Missouri, the #16 team in RPI, and have a shot to get a huge win while all of these other teams seeded right ahead of them are done for the season.

    While we're at it, ISU's RPI and SOS already compares very favorably to those "mid major" teams anyway. Iowa State has an RPI of 29 & SOS of 38.

    With just a win over Texas or with a win over Texas and Missouri, I don't know what will happen but a door may be open for Iowa State to improve their seeding.




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    Re: NCAA Seeding Food for Thought

    Is our SOS actually 38? I thought we were in that 100 area.



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    Re: NCAA Seeding Food for Thought

    I was going to get all these numbers this morning after I saw Lunardi's S curve last night. All of the 7s and 6s are pretty passable because majority are done playing or won't play anyone to really improve. And our SOS should really help if we are going to pass them.



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    Re: NCAA Seeding Food for Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by BCClone View Post
    Is our SOS actually 38? I thought we were in that 100 area.
    We played 6 top ten teams this year. That helps immensely.



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    Re: NCAA Seeding Food for Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by megamanxzero35 View Post
    We played 6 top ten teams this year. That helps immensely.
    Mostly at the end too, I hadnt looked at it for awhile.



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    Re: NCAA Seeding Food for Thought

    I think there may be a "winter storm weatherman effect" happening. No weather forecaster afford to miss the big storm so they always predict the worst.

    Similarly, because successful mid-majors have been big stories in recent years, none of the bracketologists want to miss the next mid-major to do well. So they all may get bumped a little higher than they might otherwise.


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    Re: NCAA Seeding Food for Thought

    http://i.imgur.com/2UFuE.png

    There is Lunardi's S curve. Memphis, New Mexico, SDSU, Gonzaga, Creighton, Saint Mary's.

    All mid-majors. Only Memphis and the 2 MW schools have games left. Memphis won't play anyone to bolster their resume. The MW schools could play another game to help them by playing each other or UNLV. Iowa State has a lot of room to move up.



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    Re: NCAA Seeding Food for Thought

    Its all on us to win to improve seeding - doesn't look like the "projected" teams ahead of us will slide back. The Mtn West teams have easy first round conference tourney games.



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    Re: NCAA Seeding Food for Thought

    Exactly. We have a lot of room to move up, but we have to hope that Notre Dame, New Mexico and SDSU lose their games in order to move up. All those teams have opportunities for quality wins in their respective tournaments to stay ahead of us.

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    Re: NCAA Seeding Food for Thought

    Didn't the committee do a mock selection weeks ago (right before we played Oklahoma at home IIRC)?

    They had ISU as a 9 seed (again IIRC) and since then ISU has gone 4-1 with a huge road win at K-State, a huge win over #10 Baylor, and a 6 point loss on the road to #8 Mizzou in that stretch. While these bracketologists are guessing I think ISU's stock has to have risen with the actual committee. A win over Texas and a good showing at minimum should bump us up out of the 8/9 game and a win over Mizzou could be enough to bump ISU to the 6 seed line.

    Beat Texas, lose to Mizzou and ISU finishes going 5-2 over their last 7 with 2 losses to a top 10 team.

    Beat them both and ISU will have gone 6-1 heading into the Big XII Championship game and will have 2 wins over top 10 teams in their last 3 games.

    If that second scenario happens ISU could become one of those trendy teams that everyone is talking about as being one of the hottest teams in the nation heading into the Tournament. Their seed would improve dramatically.


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    Re: NCAA Seeding Food for Thought

    If the committee is suppose to look at the body of work I don't see how they can keep ISU out of that group. The best wins seems to be teams like UNLV and CSU. Granted the SOS isn't the schools fault since the teams in those west conferences are not that highly rated this year but you play the schedule you are given and ISU has the more impressive body of work.



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    Re: NCAA Seeding Food for Thought

    Time to put on some Blue & Orange and start cheering for Boise State. They are leading San Diego State at the half in the Quarterfinals of the Mountain West Tourney!



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    Re: NCAA Seeding Food for Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonestate78 View Post
    Time to put on some Blue & Orange and start cheering for Boise State. They are leading San Diego State at the half in the Quarterfinals of the Mountain West Tourney!
    It just so happens that I have a sports jacket made out of blue astroturf. I'll go home and put it on.


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    Re: NCAA Seeding Food for Thought

    Might actually jump K State is somebody's ******* bracket with their loss today (and our win).



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    Quote Originally Posted by VeloClone View Post
    It just so happens that I have a sports jacket made out of blue astroturf. I'll go home and put it on.
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