Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 18
  1. #1
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 66,773, Level: 80
    Level completed: 21%, Points required for next Level: 1,277
    Overall activity: 5.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    cyfanatic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Cedar Rapids, Iowa
    Posts
    4,124
    Points
    66,773
    Level
    80
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 59
    Given: 934

    30 Story Building Built in 15 Days


  2. #2
    Speechless
    Points: 740,553, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 99.9%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteranCreated Album pictures50000 Experience PointsOverdrive
    Cyclonepride's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    A pineapple under the sea
    Posts
    49,817
    Points
    740,553
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 2,639
    Given: 1,216

    Re: 30 Story Building Built in 15 Days

    Would not step a foot in that building



  3. #3
    Addict
    Points: 151,237, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 4.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    longtimeclone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Up north
    Posts
    7,901
    Points
    151,237
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 94
    Given: 43

    Re: 30 Story Building Built in 15 Days

    Interestng story but I don't get a good feeling from this line:

    "But a job done quickly is not always a job done well. Zhang said that in their race to the finish line, many Chinese construction companies skimp on the meticulous reviews and inspections that make projects in the West drag on for years."

    Even though inspections can be a hassle, they are usually there for safety.



  4. #4
    Addict
    Points: 83,913, Level: 90
    Level completed: 10%, Points required for next Level: 1,637
    Overall activity: 10.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    6,170
    Points
    83,913
    Level
    90
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 225
    Given: 0

    Re: 30 Story Building Built in 15 Days

    What's the cure time on concrete? I hope they don't have earthquakes



  5. #5
    Speechless
    Points: 740,553, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 99.9%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteranCreated Album pictures50000 Experience PointsOverdrive
    Cyclonepride's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    A pineapple under the sea
    Posts
    49,817
    Points
    740,553
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 2,639
    Given: 1,216

    Re: 30 Story Building Built in 15 Days

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonehomer View Post
    What's the cure time on concrete? I hope they don't have earthquakes
    There's really no way that they aren't having problems. Things have to cure, etc. before other things can happen. I'm no expert on the overall process, but for flooring, you are not even supposed to set your materials for 30 days after the concrete is poured. Not to mention, the residual moisture from wet work could not have been reduced to normal occupation levels before install. I'm sure there are ways to speed these processes, but I'd have to imagine that every corner that could be cut was to get it up this fast.



  6. #6
    Bench Warmer
    Points: 18,058, Level: 41
    Level completed: 1%, Points required for next Level: 892
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    10000 Experience PointsVeteran

    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Screwston,TX
    Posts
    302
    Points
    18,058
    Level
    41
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: 30 Story Building Built in 15 Days

    we don't need regulations! - republicans


    Building falls down....


    -I'm 1983 Chris Allen, and I approve this message.

  7. #7
    Pro
    Points: 76,476, Level: 85
    Level completed: 96%, Points required for next Level: 74
    Overall activity: 9.0%
    Achievements:
    Recommendation Second Class50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    ItsCyence's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Brookings, SD
    Posts
    3,485
    Points
    76,476
    Level
    85
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 65
    Given: 115

    Re: 30 Story Building Built in 15 Days

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycology View Post
    we don't need regulations! - republicans


    Building falls down....
    Why bring in politics?

    That building will fall down in 10 days.



  8. #8
    Addict
    Points: 151,237, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 4.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    longtimeclone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Up north
    Posts
    7,901
    Points
    151,237
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 94
    Given: 43

    Re: 30 Story Building Built in 15 Days

    It says in the article that the foundation was laid ahead of time. I wonder how long it took them to get to a point or make all the pieces to assemble the building that quickly.



  9. #9
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 66,773, Level: 80
    Level completed: 21%, Points required for next Level: 1,277
    Overall activity: 5.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    cyfanatic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Cedar Rapids, Iowa
    Posts
    4,124
    Points
    66,773
    Level
    80
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 59
    Given: 934

    Re: 30 Story Building Built in 15 Days

    Yeah...the more I think about it...I don't think I would feel comfortable staying in that hotel! That said...I don't know anything about the construction of the hotels I do stay in...maybe that is a good thing?



  10. #10
    Bench Warmer
    Points: 18,058, Level: 41
    Level completed: 1%, Points required for next Level: 892
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    10000 Experience PointsVeteran

    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Screwston,TX
    Posts
    302
    Points
    18,058
    Level
    41
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: 30 Story Building Built in 15 Days

    Quote Originally Posted by ItsCYence View Post
    Why bring in politics?

    That building will fall down in 10 days.

    lol sorry.


    -I'm 1983 Chris Allen, and I approve this message.

  11. #11
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 66,773, Level: 80
    Level completed: 21%, Points required for next Level: 1,277
    Overall activity: 5.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    cyfanatic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Cedar Rapids, Iowa
    Posts
    4,124
    Points
    66,773
    Level
    80
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 59
    Given: 934

    Re: 30 Story Building Built in 15 Days

    Quote Originally Posted by longtimeclone View Post
    Interestng story but I don't get a good feeling from this line:

    "But a job done quickly is not always a job done well. Zhang said that in their race to the finish line, many Chinese construction companies skimp on the meticulous reviews and inspections that make projects in the West drag on for years."

    Even though inspections can be a hassle, they are usually there for safety.
    That line is disturbing...it is one thing if you are building a structure on your own property for whatever reason...but a 30 story hotel? Inspections would be a very good thing in this situation!



  12. #12
    All-Star
    Points: 33,079, Level: 56
    Level completed: 3%, Points required for next Level: 1,171
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    agrabes's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    1,239
    Points
    33,079
    Level
    56
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 31
    Given: 0

    Re: 30 Story Building Built in 15 Days

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonepride View Post
    There's really no way that they aren't having problems. Things have to cure, etc. before other things can happen. I'm no expert on the overall process, but for flooring, you are not even supposed to set your materials for 30 days after the concrete is poured. Not to mention, the residual moisture from wet work could not have been reduced to normal occupation levels before install. I'm sure there are ways to speed these processes, but I'd have to imagine that every corner that could be cut was to get it up this fast.
    You can use high early strength concrete where you achieve the strength you need after 2 or 3 days. Traditional concrete doesn't achieve full strength until 28 days, but most concrete plants make mixes which are stronger than advertised so you can get away with a lot of things. That aside, if I was trying to put up a building like this I would use precast or steel.

    After watching the video, it looks like that is what they did. They bolted together a huge number of precast or premade sections to make the hotel.


    Last edited by agrabes; 03-08-2012 at 09:39 AM.

  13. #13
    Pro
    Points: 51,160, Level: 70
    Level completed: 1%, Points required for next Level: 1,390
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    pyrocyz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Ames
    Posts
    2,834
    Points
    51,160
    Level
    70
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 3
    Given: 1

    Re: 30 Story Building Built in 15 Days

    After watching the movie, it is easy to see how they did it so fast. I would probably stay there.

    I look at it as a pre-built hotel.



  14. #14
    Addict
    Points: 61,956, Level: 77
    Level completed: 20%, Points required for next Level: 1,294
    Overall activity: 4.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    CyinCo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Clive, IA
    Posts
    5,475
    Points
    61,956
    Level
    77
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 58
    Given: 0

    Re: 30 Story Building Built in 15 Days

    Really interesting actually. The floor\cieling panels were pre-built. Pre-wired, pre-ducted, pre-piped, and already tiled and drywalled. Two weeks to building the structure but how much time was spent building the pre-built sections that normally would be done on site?

    Cool stuff.


    ISU Grad 1997.
    ISU Fan for Life.

    Not in CO anymore but I'm not changing my name :)

  15. #15
    Pro
    Points: 43,084, Level: 64
    Level completed: 11%, Points required for next Level: 1,166
    Overall activity: 1.0%
    Achievements:
    25000 Experience PointsVeteran

    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Borger, TX
    Posts
    2,721
    Points
    43,084
    Level
    64
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 65
    Given: 4

    Re: 30 Story Building Built in 15 Days

    Quote Originally Posted by longtimeclone View Post
    Interestng story but I don't get a good feeling from this line:

    "But a job done quickly is not always a job done well. Zhang said that in their race to the finish line, many Chinese construction companies skimp on the meticulous reviews and inspections that make projects in the West drag on for years."

    Even though inspections can be a hassle, they are usually there for safety.
    My company has tried a couple Chinese made vessels in the past at our production plants. We never received mill test reports for the metal used, and we found out why at the hydrotesting. Lets just say some spectacular failures on vessels that were not even close to specification.



Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
  • TV: ESPNU
  • Iowa State vs. TCU
  • January 31, 2015
  • 01:00 PM