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    Question about Hilton

    I always read about how Hilton was built to keep sound in since it is solid concrete and everything which is very true. But if that was such a huge priority, why is the ceiling covered in what looks like wooden slats? That kind of thing seems like it would be inefficient for reflecting sound. Wouldn't it be better to have a flat solid covering over most of it, even if the slats are necessary for how Hilton is built?

    For example, I have heard the Phog Allen Field house has a tin roof and it contributes to it being insanely loud.

    *Disclaimer- I understand that the reason is probably something very simple that I overlooked or is common knowledge and I am about to look stupid.



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    Re: Question about Hilton

    I figured the slats were only there to help with sound. they don't have to be there, they are held up by steel piping....



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    Re: Question about Hilton

    Always wondered the same thing.

    It seems like those would catch and absorb sound, but maybe I am wrong.



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    Re: Question about Hilton

    Hilton has aged very well. great venue



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    Re: Question about Hilton

    Quote Originally Posted by CYVADER View Post
    I figured the slats were only there to help with sound. they don't have to be there, they are held up by steel piping....
    I'm confused as to how that would make it louder. As far as I know flat surfaces reflect sound and a surface with lots of long slits in it would trap a lot of the sound in between the boards and that sound would be lost and not reflected back to the crowd/court.



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    Re: Question about Hilton

    It's a venue used for concerts, too. An echo chamber isn't always desired.



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    Re: Question about Hilton

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhoadhoused View Post
    I'm confused as to how that would make it louder. As far as I know flat surfaces reflect sound and a surface with lots of long slits in it would trap a lot of the sound in between the boards and that sound would be lost and not reflected back to the crowd/court.
    It's not necessarily true that flat surfaces create a louder sound. If those slats cause the sound waves to resonate, you will get a much louder sound with the slats than without, which is why I'm assuming they're there because something like that isn't there for no reason.


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    Re: Question about Hilton

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhoadhoused View Post
    I'm confused as to how that would make it louder. As far as I know flat surfaces reflect sound and a surface with lots of long slits in it would trap a lot of the sound in between the boards and that sound would be lost and not reflected back to the crowd/court.
    It's not necessarily true that flat surfaces create a louder sound. If those slats cause the sound waves to resonate, you will get a much louder sound with the slats than without, which is why I'm assuming they're there because something like that isn't there for no reason.
    my thoughts as well, but I have no knowledge of acoustical engineering



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    Re: Question about Hilton

    Quote Originally Posted by Die4Cy View Post
    It's a venue used for concerts, too. An echo chamber isn't always desired.

    I think this is probably right.

    I would rather say screw the 2-3 concerts a year they do in there and put tin everywhere, like a garage or machine shed! haha



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    Re: Question about Hilton

    Quote Originally Posted by Die4Cy View Post
    It's a venue used for concerts, too. An echo chamber isn't always desired.
    I think this is the answer.



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    Re: Question about Hilton

    I sit way up by the ceiling and some of that wood doesn't look to healthy anymore. Hilton's just getting broken in!


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    Re: Question about Hilton

    Something to consider is not just material but the shape of a roof. Sound deflection is what can make things "louder". Remember that AFH has an angled roof so sound is redirected downward. The wood does this in a similar effect, as a flat roof would only help if you were yelling upward.

    Also I've heard that some of the wood is actually part of the old flooring from when we played bball in the Armory. Does anyone else know if this is true?



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    Re: Question about Hilton

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhoadhoused View Post
    I'm confused as to how that would make it louder. As far as I know flat surfaces reflect sound and a surface with lots of long slits in it would trap a lot of the sound in between the boards and that sound would be lost and not reflected back to the crowd/court.
    I would guess this has more to do with concerts at Hilton. With the wood up there it prevents the sounds form echoing completely and making the live music sound bad.



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    Re: Question about Hilton

    One of my guesses was that sound echoing wouldn't be good for concerts, which were a bigger deal because Hilton used to have a ton every year. However, now that WFA gets all the big concerts, it seems like it would be to our benefit to not have the slats.



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    Re: Question about Hilton

    Quote Originally Posted by BBHMagic View Post
    I sit way up by the ceiling and some of that wood doesn't look to healthy anymore. Hilton's just getting broken in!
    I agree. The ceiling looks a bit tacky with the missy panels. Would love to see them replace it with some new wood, but understand the cost.



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