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    Gottleib Gives us More Respect

    Starts at about 2:30. Just said that we'd be a difficult out in the tournament. Joe Lunardi's latest Bracketology update - College Basketball Nation Blog - ESPN



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    Re: Gottleib Gives us More Respect

    Crap, didn't see that



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    Re: Gottleib Gives us More Respect

    He is finally realizing what we, and a lot of commentators, have been saying for a month. Better late than never.


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    Re: Gottleib Gives us More Respect

    Quote Originally Posted by CTTB78 View Post
    He is finally realizing what we, and a lot of commentators, have been saying for a month. Better late than never.
    I understand last night when Andy Katz mentioned Fred as COY in the Big 12 on ESPN, Gottlieb quickly pooh-poohed it and said Bill Self...hands down



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    I could give less ***** about what gottleib says about us anymore.



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    Re: Gottleib Gives us More Respect

    Quote Originally Posted by BusterCherry View Post
    I understand last night when Andy Katz mentioned Fred as COY in the Big 12 on ESPN, Gottlieb quickly pooh-poohed it and said Bill Self...hands down
    Self may be the best coach in the Big 12, but all he did this year is exactly what everyone predicted they would do and he had the help of the likely National POY. CFH took a team picked to finish 8th in the conference to a 3rd place finish and beat every team in the B12 other than Mizzou.

    Its CFH or Haith. Self shouldn't even be in the discussion.



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    Quote Originally Posted by RayShimley View Post
    Self may be the best coach in the Big 12, but all he did this year is exactly what everyone predicted they would do and he had the help of the likely National POY. CFH took a team picked to finish 8th in the conference to a 3rd place finish and beat every team in the B12 other than Mizzou.

    Its CFH or Haith. Self shouldn't even be in the discussion.
    Shall I bookmark this statement for a few years down the road when fans start claiming that CFH deserves to be CoY because ISU won the the conference "like they were expected to do?"


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    Re: Gottleib Gives us More Respect

    Quote Originally Posted by RayShimley View Post
    Self may be the best coach in the Big 12, but all he did this year is exactly what everyone predicted they would do and he had the help of the likely National POY. CFH took a team picked to finish 8th in the conference to a 3rd place finish and beat every team in the B12 other than Mizzou.

    Its CFH or Haith. Self shouldn't even be in the discussion.
    Wrong, A&M was picked first. Baylor second? KU lost a ton from last year. This was his best coaching job at KU, hands down. CFH did an awesome job, no doubt about it. I would go Haith, Self then Hoiberg but it is very close.



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    Heres my one complaint with him thinking Self is the COY. Yes Self is a great coach but I thought this recognition is more of what your team does when you werent even talked about being in the top 4 of the conference. Id agres that its either Haith or Hoiberg. I just have a hard time going against Fred at this point when this Cyclone team was picked to finish in the bottom of the conference and now we are in the big 12 tourney with a 3 seed.



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    GOTTLIEB SO UNFAIR!! KILL THE GOTTLIEB!! Wait...what?



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    Re: Gottleib Gives us More Respect

    Quote Originally Posted by twojman View Post
    Wrong, A&M was picked first. Baylor second? KU lost a ton from last year. This was his best coaching job at KU, hands down. CFH did an awesome job, no doubt about it. I would go Haith, Self then Hoiberg but it is very close.
    Tie for first with KU, with KU having more first place votes.

    http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArtic...CLID=205314008

    Mizzou was predicted lower by a lot not because of talent but because of a general disrespect for Haith's coaching abilities at the time



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    Re: Gottleib Gives us More Respect

    Quote Originally Posted by twojman View Post
    Wrong, A&M was picked first. Baylor second? KU lost a ton from last year. This was his best coaching job at KU, hands down. CFH did an awesome job, no doubt about it. I would go Haith, Self then Hoiberg but it is very close.
    How many sources had A&M at first? Can't believe how far that was off. Also, I thought most either had Baylor or Kansas at the top with Missouri around 3 or 4.



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    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    Tie for first with KU, with KU having more first place votes.

    Kansas, A&M Picked To Win Men's Basketball Title - Big 12 Conference - Official Athletic Site

    Mizzou was predicted lower by a lot not because of talent but because of a general disrespect for Haith's coaching abilities at the time
    Well those predictions were mostly pretty far off.



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