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    Chizik Weighs Playing Time for Seniors vs. Youth

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    Ames, Ia. — Gene Chizik continues to walk a coaching tightrope.

    Should underclassmen be given more chances to contribute on the Iowa State football team, or do the seniors deserve a show of loyalty?

    “There’s a fine line here,” Chizik said during today’s news conference. “If I say we’re going to go with all the younger guys, the message I send is ‘I don’t care what happens the rest of the year.’ And that’s not true.”

    Chizik, however, did say there was merit to giving non-starters a chance to prove themselves Saturday when fourth-ranked Oklahoma (6-1) visits Jack Trice Stadium.

    The Cyclones (1-6) are a four-touchdown underdog. So in the eyes of many fans, the coaching staff has nothing to lose by devoting more snaps to players who can contribute in future seasons.

    Senior linebacker Alvin Bowen doesn’t see it that way.

    “I understand what coach Chizik is talking about,” Bowen said. “It would be kind of like him turning his back on us.”

    Questions about a possible lineup shuffle increased as Iowa State lost its first three Big 12 Conference games by an average margin of 32 points.

    Bowen had many of those same questions when Chizik was hired last November.

    “When he first got here, I kind of thought that might happen,” Bowen said. “Of course it goes through any senior’s mind with a new coach coming in.”

    Bowen, who led the nation in tackles last fall,

    “I’ve always said that no spot is ever given to you,” he said. “That’s the basics of (Division-I) football. If you get comfortable with your position, it can easily be taken from you.”



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    Re: Chizik Weighs Playing Time for Seniors vs. Youth

    I say Chizik, do as you please. Shake it up. We cant lose any worse. Who knows, by giving those who dont get to start a chance to play, you may see some good stuff out of them. I mean seriously, starters look great in practice and then suck on the game field so in turn it may be that some who dont do as well in practice excel in a game situation instead. At this point, what can it hurt? Some feelings? Oh well.



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    Re: Chizik Weighs Playing Time for Seniors vs. Youth

    Chizik needs to say hey...nothing personal, just business. Seniors will learn it soon enough in the real world.



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    Re: Chizik Weighs Playing Time for Seniors vs. Youth

    Quote Originally Posted by cycloneworld View Post
    “There’s a fine line here,” Chizik said during today’s news conference. “If I say we’re going to go with all the younger guys, the message I send is ‘I don’t care what happens the rest of the year.’ And that’s not true.”
    What kinda scares me is that we got dropped by 53, most agree that Mack called off th dogs, and this quote suggests that it would be even worse if we played younger guys.

    Is that even possible?



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    Re: Chizik Weighs Playing Time for Seniors vs. Youth

    John Walters mentioned AA had a hurt foot on the Cotler show this morning and was actually in a boot for awhile. This was news to me. He was actually surprised that he played at all vs Texas. If he's healthy, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see more AA reps as the season winds down.



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    Re: Chizik Weighs Playing Time for Seniors vs. Youth

    What about Phillip Bates reps?



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    Re: Chizik Weighs Playing Time for Seniors vs. Youth

    I just think it would be better to work all the players who have warranted time in early in the game. Especially with Meyer V.S. Arnaud and Scales V.S. Bates V.S. Robinson.

    Let Meyer start the game, but give Arnaud the next series after that regardless of outcome of the first series. Maybe Meyer needs to realize that he truely isn't safe. I don't see him feeling challenged at all when Arnaud only comes in after we are down 40 late in the third quarter.



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    Re: Chizik Weighs Playing Time for Seniors vs. Youth

    Quote Originally Posted by price26 View Post
    I just think it would be better to work all the players who have warranted time in early in the game. Especially with Meyer V.S. Arnaud and Scales V.S. Bates V.S. Robinson.

    Let Meyer start the game, but give Arnaud the next series after that regardless of outcome of the first series. Maybe Meyer needs to realize that he truely isn't safe. I don't see him feeling challenged at all when Arnaud only comes in after we are down 40 late in the third quarter.

    There is no question in my mind that Meyer is fully aware that his starting position is in jeopardy. I just think he will not and cannot change what he does and right now his experience is keeping him in. I think now that we are reaching midpoint and beyond, we will see an alternate set of QB's taking turns.



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    Re: Chizik Weighs Playing Time for Seniors vs. Youth

    Here's what I think. For a few positions (QB) start Arnaud. Let him prove himself. If he doesn't do any better than what Meyer has done, put Meyer in and let him finish the game. You are not giving up on the seniors, you are just making the underclassman prove themselves to stay in. It sends a message that we have guys that we can play, but are giving you a shot. If you dont impress, then we will go back to the other guys and you lost your chance.


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    Re: Chizik Weighs Playing Time for Seniors vs. Youth

    Quote Originally Posted by guitarchitect7 View Post
    Here's what I think. For a few positions (QB) start Arnaud. Let him prove himself. If he doesn't do any better than what Meyer has done, put Meyer in and let him finish the game. You are not giving up on the senior, you are just making the underclassman to prove them selves to stay in. It sends a message of we have guys we can play, but are giving you a shot. If you dont impress, then we will go back to the other guys and you lost your chance.
    Is there a reason why in Arnauds first series it went run, run, line of scrimage pass? If he is going to play he should be able to use most of the playbook.


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    Re: Chizik Weighs Playing Time for Seniors vs. Youth

    Quote Originally Posted by chadm View Post
    Is there a reason why in Arnauds first series it went run, run, line of scrimage pass? If he is going to play he should be able to use most of the playbook.
    Also agreed. That was very upsetting to see that, but I understand where you dont want to get your young guys afraid to quickly. By doing runs, the are executing handoffs, taking snaps, and calling plays in live action. The next step is working in pass plays which there were a few. I would admit if I was a coach and had the option of trying out a new QB and coach him under the correct circumstances, I would do runs first and foremost. He needs to get acclimated to the speed of the game before being able to read coverages. I also hope this is why Arnaud is staring down recievers too, they are giving him one target only to make a read on. Next, two recievers, then three, four, etc.


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    Re: Chizik Weighs Playing Time for Seniors vs. Youth

    Dont forget Austin's second degree sprained foot is still limiting his PT.



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    Re: Chizik Weighs Playing Time for Seniors vs. Youth

    Frankly our best chance is still with Bret. Sorry. The time to change is after we are down by 28-35 points.


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