Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 35
  1. #1
    Bench Warmer
    Points: 6,675, Level: 24
    Level completed: 25%, Points required for next Level: 375
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    1 year registered5000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Newhall
    Posts
    348
    Points
    6,675
    Level
    24
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 8
    Given: 58

    Big 12 coaching vs big ten coaching

    On the b&b show in cr/ic they had a Nebraska journalist on that said the big 12 may have more athleticism, but the big ten has MUCH better coaching and the players have a MUCH higher basketball iq. Can one of you stat nerds ( no offense) please disprove this statement.



  2. #2
    Addict
    Points: 90,964, Level: 93
    Level completed: 85%, Points required for next Level: 286
    Overall activity: 7.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience PointsSocial
    CRcyclone6's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Cedar Rapids
    Posts
    5,308
    Points
    90,964
    Level
    93
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 180
    Given: 797

    Re: Big 12 coaching vs big ten coaching

    Surprised you took time away from the Sawyer Brown Band to listen to that hawkeye homer show. The Gym Class is good. Unash and Dukes will give ISU their props and have interviews from time to time. B and B is not good.



  3. #3
    Speechless
    Points: 254,544, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 28.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    Cydkar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    15,537
    Points
    254,544
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 469
    Given: 420

    Re:Big 12 coaching vs big ten coaching

    No way to prove or disprove.



  4. #4
    DistrictCyclone
    Guest

    Re: Big 12 coaching vs big ten coaching

    Quote Originally Posted by cysox2 View Post
    On the b&b show in cr/ic they had a Nebraska journalist on that said the big 12 may have more athleticism, but the big ten has MUCH better coaching and the players have a MUCH higher basketball iq. Can one of you stat nerds ( no offense) please disprove this statement.
    There are no stats that directly indicate a coach's ability. Maybe scoring efficiency after time-outs, the ability of a team to come from behind, or wins relative to scoring could be some sort of proxy measures???

    What a dumb thing to argue about on the show, though; both leagues have amazing coaches. Self, Barnes, Kruger, and Gillispe have built up some impressive resumes, as have Izzo, Ryan, Smith, Painter, Crean, Beilein, and Matta. The Big 12 might have more younger "up-and-coming" coaches compared to the experience of the Big Ten, but that doesn't necessarily mean one conference is better than the other in that area.



  5. #5
    CyBer
    Guest

    Re: Big 12 coaching vs big ten coaching

    Big 10 is good, except Iowa, Nebraska, Illinois, Wisconsin, and about 6 other teams.



  6. #6
    Rookie
    Points: 20,249, Level: 43
    Level completed: 45%, Points required for next Level: 501
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Crescent, IA
    Posts
    483
    Points
    20,249
    Level
    43
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Big 12 coaching vs big ten coaching

    You were listening to a Nebraska show. They were just trying to justify why they suck as bad in big 10 play as they always did in Big 12 play.



  7. #7
    Starter
    Points: 22,273, Level: 45
    Level completed: 70%, Points required for next Level: 277
    Overall activity: 8.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    994
    Points
    22,273
    Level
    45
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 2
    Given: 0

    Re: Big 12 coaching vs big ten coaching

    Dumbest

    Argument

    Ever!

    Talk about the lamest way to justify your conference that I have ever heard of. Is that why kNU has only won 5 games? There coach isn't smart enough? Wow.



  8. #8
    Speechless
    Points: 860,650, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 54.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteranCreated Album pictures50000 Experience PointsOverdrive
    CycloneErik's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Jamerica
    Posts
    55,429
    Points
    860,650
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,516
    Given: 1,305

    Re: Big 12 coaching vs big ten coaching

    Justifying that the new conference is too tough makes me think of this guy:

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK9aZyJJNIo]Nerdy Guy Goes on Warcraft Rant - YouTube[/ame]


    Since we are an elite team now, let's go get that One Cyclone Moment.
    Make this one for the ages!




    http://rememberingdoria.wordpress.com/

  9. #9
    Pro
    Points: 48,161, Level: 67
    Level completed: 87%, Points required for next Level: 189
    Overall activity: 3.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    im4cyclones's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Ames, IA
    Posts
    2,564
    Points
    48,161
    Level
    67
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 273
    Given: 253

    Re: Big 12 coaching vs big ten coaching

    I think Izzo and Self are a push. Kruger and... Bo Ryan? Drew and Crean? Both can recruit like mothers. Freddie and Matt Painter? Young and talented coaches. Martin and Matta? What about Hugs at WVU? Match up with Tubby? Gillespie and Beilein? As for the rest, who cares. Hired only to be fired.

    Overall, pretty even.



  10. #10
    Bench Warmer
    Points: 6,675, Level: 24
    Level completed: 25%, Points required for next Level: 375
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    1 year registered5000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Newhall
    Posts
    348
    Points
    6,675
    Level
    24
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 8
    Given: 58

    Re: Big 12 coaching vs big ten coaching

    Quote Originally Posted by Cydkar View Post
    No way to prove or disprove.
    Would coaches winning % in the tourney be any kind of indication?



  11. #11
    Bench Warmer
    Points: 6,675, Level: 24
    Level completed: 25%, Points required for next Level: 375
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    1 year registered5000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Newhall
    Posts
    348
    Points
    6,675
    Level
    24
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 8
    Given: 58

    Re: Big 12 coaching vs big ten coaching

    The same guy also said that there are many "empty possessions" in the big 12, and in the big ten there is no such thing as an "empty possession". ( that is not a direct quote, but it's pretty close)



  12. #12
    Addict
    Points: 214,219, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    JUKEBOX's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Posts
    7,029
    Points
    214,219
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 47
    Given: 0

    Re: Big 12 coaching vs big ten coaching

    Well 9 times out of 10 talent beats coaching so...

    Big 12 > Big 10.



  13. #13
    All-Star
    Points: 42,791, Level: 63
    Level completed: 88%, Points required for next Level: 159
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    RandomFan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,964
    Points
    42,791
    Level
    63
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1
    Given: 0

    Re: Big 12 coaching vs big ten coaching

    Self and Izzo are tops. Probably a push. After that I would say Ryan, Crean, Bellein, and Matta are probably better than Barnes, BCG, Drew and Martin. Tubby and Kruger are both good, but maybe past their prime.

    If we get to count Huggybear, he's better than Painter.

    Fred and Fran- too early to say.

    All in all, it's not crazy to say the Big Ten has better coaches. But it goes in cycles. 5 years ago people might have said Weber was a great coach, now he's more than likely going to be fired.



  14. #14
    All-Star
    Points: 42,791, Level: 63
    Level completed: 88%, Points required for next Level: 159
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    RandomFan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,964
    Points
    42,791
    Level
    63
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1
    Given: 0

    Re: Big 12 coaching vs big ten coaching

    Self and Izzo are tops. Probably a push. After that I would say Ryan, Crean, Bellein, and Matta are probably better than Barnes, BCG, Drew and Martin. Tubby and Kruger are both good, but maybe past their prime.

    If we get to count Huggybear, he's better than Painter.

    Fred and Fran- too early to say.

    All in all, it's not crazy to say the Big Ten has better coaches. But it goes in cycles. 5 years ago people might have said Weber was a great coach, now he's more than likely going to be fired.



  15. #15
    Pro
    Points: 119,141, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    balken's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    2,643
    Points
    119,141
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 3
    Given: 0

    Re: Big 12 coaching vs big ten coaching

    Quote Originally Posted by RandomFan View Post
    Self and Izzo are tops. Probably a push. After that I would say Ryan, Crean, Bellein, and Matta are probably better than Barnes, BCG, Drew and Martin. Tubby and Kruger are both good, but maybe past their prime.

    If we get to count Huggybear, he's better than Painter.

    Fred and Fran- too early to say.

    All in all, it's not crazy to say the Big Ten has better coaches. But it goes in cycles. 5 years ago people might have said Weber was a great coach, now he's more than likely going to be fired.
    Quote Originally Posted by RandomFan View Post
    Self and Izzo are tops. Probably a push. After that I would say Ryan, Crean, Bellein, and Matta are probably better than Barnes, BCG, Drew and Martin. Tubby and Kruger are both good, but maybe past their prime.

    If we get to count Huggybear, he's better than Painter.

    Fred and Fran- too early to say.

    All in all, it's not crazy to say the Big Ten has better coaches. But it goes in cycles. 5 years ago people might have said Weber was a great coach, now he's more than likely going to be fired.
    Quote Originally Posted by RandomFan View Post
    Self and Izzo are tops. Probably a push. After that I would say Ryan, Crean, Bellein, and Matta are probably better than Barnes, BCG, Drew and Martin. Tubby and Kruger are both good, but maybe past their prime.

    If we get to count Huggybear, he's better than Painter.

    Fred and Fran- too early to say.

    All in all, it's not crazy to say the Big Ten has better coaches. But it goes in cycles. 5 years ago people might have said Weber was a great coach, now he's more than likely going to be fired.
    I see your double post and raise you a triple quote.



Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
  • TV: Fox Sports 1
  • Iowa State vs. North Dakota State
  • August 30, 2014
  • 11:00 AM