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    Andy Katz today

    on ESPN radio was talking about the "bubble". He said the "back side of the bubble is SO WEAK" that they are struggling to find teams to put in the bubble conversation. I'm paraphrasing now, but then he said teams like Iowa are popping up and other very "pedestrian" teams. He further said that if teams like Long Beach, St. Mary's and other mid major's lose their conference tournaments, he thinks they will still get in because there aren't any other deserving teams. Van Pelt agreed and said it seems like it is tough to find 68 to fill the brackets.

    ISU is not now and has never been on anybody's last 4 in or first 4 out list. The RPI is strong. The next 3 games are at #8, home vs. top 15 and B12 first round most likely vs. an NCAA Tournament team. Losses in any or all of these is not going to take us out of the NCAA Tournament, no matter what Jerry Palm thinks, whoever the hell he is.

    GO CYCLONES!!!



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    Re: Andy Katz today

    Agreed, we lose our next 3 and we'll still be a 12/13 seed.


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    Re: Andy Katz today

    Quote Originally Posted by wonkadog View Post
    Agreed, we lose our next 3 and we'll still be a 12/13 seed.
    If we lose our last 3 I still think we get that 10 seed.


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    Re: Andy Katz today

    Nobody is or should be concerned if we get in because we are already a lock. Iowa shouldn't be concerned either because there is no way for them. I don't care how weak the bubble is they will find teams before Iowa.



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    Re: Andy Katz today

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones21 View Post
    If we lose our last 3 I still think we get that 10 seed.
    I agree. None of the three would be a bad loss.



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    Re: Andy Katz today

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones21 View Post
    If we lose our last 3 I still think we get that 10 seed.
    I agree. It is very unlikely we end up as an 11 or 12.



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    Re: Andy Katz today

    At a minimum, I think we win 1 of the next 3 anyway.

    As an aside, how nice will it be to finally be wearing the home unis in the first round of the Big 12 tourney for a change?



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    Re: Andy Katz today

    I'm cool with a 10 as well. However, if I were to pick, I'd rather us slide all the way down to 11/12/13 to avoid those 1/2 seeds in the second round. I'd take Wisconsin in a 12/5 matchup in a second!


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    Re: Andy Katz today

    Quote Originally Posted by awd4cy View Post
    Nobody is or should be concerned if we get in because we are already a lock. Iowa shouldn't be concerned either because there is no way for them. I don't care how weak the bubble is they will find teams before Iowa.
    There are always a couple upsets in the low/mid-major conference tourneys where some team not in the picture gets hot and wins. Those types will fill in the bubble before a crap team like iowa gets any serious consideration.



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    Re: Andy Katz today

    Iowa vs Drake in the NIT at ... what's the Drake gym called?



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    Re: Andy Katz today

    Quote Originally Posted by Max57 View Post
    Iowa vs Drake in the NIT at ... what's the Drake gym called?
    the nap center



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    Re: Andy Katz today

    Quote Originally Posted by tim_redd View Post
    the nap center



    Once again I add nothing of value to the convo.....hope everyone likes Spongebob



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    Re: Andy Katz today

    Quote Originally Posted by tim_redd View Post
    the nap center
    I see what you did there.





    Edit: nhclone beat me to it



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    Re: Andy Katz today

    Quote Originally Posted by tim_redd View Post
    the nap center
    Thought that was the nickname for Carver.



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    Re: Andy Katz today

    Quote Originally Posted by awd4cy View Post
    Nobody is or should be concerned if we get in because we are already a lock. Iowa shouldn't be concerned either because there is no way for them. I don't care how weak the bubble is they will find teams before Iowa.
    I agree, the only chance the Hawks had was to win out the regular season and at least a game in the b1g 10 tourney, that would've gotten them to 20 and on the strong side of the bubble but losing their last game killed their chance to even be on the bubble.



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