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    Past Conference bids to NCAA

    Is our conference that weak this year? I always thought the Big 12 qualified 5 or 6 for the NCAA and now only 3 appear to be a lock this late in the season.

    Anybody have a history of Big 12 qualifiers in the last 10 years or so?



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    Re: Past Conference bids to NCAA

    Well, for one, fewer total teams in the big 12 now...



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    Re: Past Conference bids to NCAA

    Quote Originally Posted by gogagig View Post
    Well, for one, fewer total teams in the big 12 now...
    sCUm and that other team were rarely in line for a tourney bid. Though I guess not having those two around for 4-6 to beat on in conference probably hurts.



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    Re: Past Conference bids to NCAA

    Quote Originally Posted by gogagig View Post
    Well, for one, fewer total teams in the big 12 now...
    Yes and No. Nebraska has 6 all time invites and zero wins. I'm not sure Colorado is much better.

    3 out of 10 or even 4 out of 10 would be completely ridiculous. Computers have the Big 10 and Big 12 one and two and it's a razor thin difference. Not sure how some leagues get 50% or more in and the #2 conference only gets 30% or 40%.

    I think there's a lot in the air depending on how well ISU, KSU and Texas finish. Could be four teams if they all flop, there's no reason it couldn't be 6 if they all play well.

    Katz said the minute Neb and Colorado left that the B12 is the best basketball conference now. Swapping WVU for Missouri and TCU for A&M really doesn't change much in that regard either. Nebraska was a bigger embarrassment to the Big 8 and Big 12 than TCU would have historically been.



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    Re: Past Conference bids to NCAA

    Quote Originally Posted by gogagig View Post
    Well, for one, fewer total teams in the big 12 now...
    Yeah, but neither Colorado or Nebraska really made the tourney ever.



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    Re: Past Conference bids to NCAA

    Most recent predictions I've seen have 5-6 teams in this year, depending on Texas.



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    Re: Past Conference bids to NCAA

    10 years:

    2011- 5 (all current members)
    2010- 7 (all current members)
    2009- 6 (all current members)
    2008- 6 (all current members)
    2007- 4 (all current members)
    2006- 4 (all current members)
    2005- 6 (all current members)
    2004- 4 (all current members)
    2003- 6 (5+ colorado)
    2002- 6 (all current members)

    Only getting 3 would be the lowest ever for bids among this group of 10 teams. However, that is extremely unlikely to happen, likely to see 5, possibly 6 bids.



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    Re: Past Conference bids to NCAA

    Quote Originally Posted by buf87 View Post
    Is our conference that weak this year? I always thought the Big 12 qualified 5 or 6 for the NCAA and now only 3 appear to be a lock this late in the season.

    Anybody have a history of Big 12 qualifiers in the last 10 years or so?
    You are comparing # of bids with # of locks with 3 weeks to go. It's a false comparison.

    The BigXII will get 5 or 6 again this year, just in line with previous years.



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    Re: Past Conference bids to NCAA

    Quote Originally Posted by bawbie View Post
    You are comparing # of bids with # of locks with 3 weeks to go. It's a false comparison.

    The BigXII will get 5 or 6 again this year, just in line with previous years.
    Yeah, this is important to note. Im sure if you went and compared a few weeks out from the tourney you'd find similar things in past years with a few locks, a couple having a little work to do yet (but expected in), and a couple with an outside shot at it.



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    Re: Past Conference bids to NCAA

    the K-State team in '07 that missed the dance when they finished 10-6 in the conference... Looks like they didnt beat a ranked team all year and you have to think with 3 more bids now that they would have gotten one of those.

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    Re: Past Conference bids to NCAA

    Thanks, for the info, I think with the Kansas and K State wins, Iowa State will get in as long as the beat TT and get one in the tourney.



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    Re: Past Conference bids to NCAA

    Why do we have to wait for the conference tournament to get this "insurance" win over a non-Tech team?

    Chances are we'll face KSU in first round - why not win @KSU? Or beat Baylor at home? Why wait?



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    Re: Past Conference bids to NCAA

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    10 years:

    2011- 5 (all current members)
    2010- 7 (all current members)
    2009- 6 (all current members)
    2008- 6 (all current members)
    2007- 4 (all current members)
    2006- 4 (all current members)
    2005- 6 (all current members)
    2004- 4 (all current members)
    2003- 6 (5+ colorado)
    2002- 6 (all current members)

    Only getting 3 would be the lowest ever for bids among this group of 10 teams. However, that is extremely unlikely to happen, likely to see 5, possibly 6 bids.
    This is why the B1G getting 9 teams this year is laughable. I can't believe any so-called experts or "bracketologists" would even consider this a possibility. The Big 12 had some very good teams over those years and never even had 8 teams in.



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