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    I would like to expand on my C++ programming by learning Java and some web development. I had an easy time determining the right book to get for Java with my current knowledge but when it comes web development I have no idea. I was wondering if anyone would have some recommendations for pretty much a beginner developer. I like to have an actual book rather than reading online. Thanks in advance for the suggestions.



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    Re: Web Development Book Advice

    Saying that you want to learn "web development" is sort of like saying that you want to learn "music" - you should probably start by narrowing things down and picking an instrument. Front-end or back-end development? Language(s)?



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    Re: Web Development Book Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Pat View Post
    Saying that you want to learn "web development" is sort of like saying that you want to learn "music" - you should probably start by narrowing things down and picking an instrument. Front-end or back-end development? Language(s)?
    I am not totally sure on the language but since I will be learning Java it would probably be wise to use something along those lines. Since I have only basic Java experience currently it is kind of hard for me to determine which direction to go as far as the web development. I have some experience with HTML, Flash, and Python but would need a relatively introductory book. This is kind of a little down the road as I plan on completing the Java book first and it would probably give me a better understanding of which book to purchase for the next step but after I found out it might take up to 3.5 weeks to get the other book, I was hoping to get the other one on the way here soon so I have it when I'm ready.



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    Re: Web Development Book Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by NATEizKING View Post
    I am not totally sure on the language but since I will be learning Java it would probably be wise to use something along those lines. Since I have only basic Java experience currently it is kind of hard for me to determine which direction to go as far as the web development. I have some experience with HTML, Flash, and Python but would need a relatively introductory book. This is kind of a little down the road as I plan on completing the Java book first and it would probably give me a better understanding of which book to purchase for the next step but after I found out it might take up to 3.5 weeks to get the other book, I was hoping to get the other one on the way here soon so I have it when I'm ready.
    You might want to look at JavaServer Faces for web development. There are many free tutorials online if you just do a search on "JavaServer Faces Tutorial". Look on Amazon for reviews if you want a book.



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    Re: Web Development Book Advice

    I'd say learn PHP or ASP.NET. Those would be the most useful.



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    Re: Web Development Book Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Ames View Post
    I'd say learn PHP or ASP.NET. Those would be the most useful.
    Not if you plan on working on any large, enterprise web applications. Most will be Java EE.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ames View Post
    I'd say learn PHP or ASP.NET. Those would be the most useful.
    Its a good starter for web development but those are mainly meant for small things. Learn j2ee for enterprise applications



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    Re: Web Development Book Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by NATEizKING View Post
    I would like to expand on my C++ programming by learning Java and some web development. I had an easy time determining the right book to get for Java with my current knowledge but when it comes web development I have no idea. I was wondering if anyone would have some recommendations for pretty much a beginner developer. I like to have an actual book rather than reading online. Thanks in advance for the suggestions.
    As someone who creates J2EE apps for a living, id say to first make sure you learn the nuances of java then go into web.dev. just remember that stuff like PHP is meant for smaller scale things and J2EE J's much different. It is truly an application while php really isn't, so your knowledge of c++ will help somewhat.

    If you want the full experience then learn AJAX and javascript. That way you could really make a real time type of app



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    Re: Web Development Book Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by 1100011CS View Post
    Not if you plan on working on any large, enterprise web applications. Most will be Java EE.
    sounds terrible... who wants to work on gargantuan/difficult to change systems?



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    Re: Web Development Book Advice

    Yeah only for small sites like Facebook.



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    Re: Web Development Book Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Ames View Post
    Yeah only for small sites like Facebook.
    Actually that is incorrect. In the MVC scheme, php is used in the view mostly (with js, css, html)HOWEVER their controller I.e. services are coded in Java and c++ and the chat system is coded in Erlang. Just because you see .php in thr url doesn't mean that is where most of the stuff is happening code wise


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    Re: Web Development Book Advice

    I thought everything was moving to HTML 5.



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    Quote Originally Posted by marothisu View Post
    Actually that is incorrect. In the MVC scheme, php is used in the view mostly (with js, css, html)HOWEVER their controller I.e. services are coded in Java and c++ and the chat system is coded in Erlang. Just because you see .php in thr url doesn't mean that is where most of the stuff is happening code wise
    **** off. Incorrect. How is that incorrect? Even if one page was php then it's not incorrect. I said they used PHP, not 100% PHP. The OP asked about web dev. The web dev part is done in PHP. I don't give a **** about the lower layers.

    Numbers wise they have more php programmers than anything. PHP is used on a NOT small site.



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    Re: Web Development Book Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by MaccloNe View Post
    I thought everything was moving to HTML 5.
    HTML is just a language that browsers understand. Things like PHP play by HTML rules.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ames View Post
    **** off. Incorrect. How is that incorrect? Even if one page was php then it's not incorrect. I said they used PHP, not 100% PHP. The OP asked about web dev. The web dev part is done in PHP. I don't give a **** about the lower layers.

    Numbers wise they have more php programmers than anything. PHP is used on a NOT small site.
    You mad bro?



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