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    Bubble Watch - Saturday

    Here are the teams we are competing with for at large spots and how they did today so far. Parenthesis - Opponent RPI

    Virginia - W vs. Maryland (94)
    Miami - W vs. Wake Forest (157)
    NC State - L vs. FSU (19)
    UConn - L vs Marquette (10)
    Seton Hall L @ Cincy (84)
    Minnesota @ NW - Playing Now - both bubble teams
    Illinois - L @ Nebby (121)
    Texas - L @ Okie St (103)
    KState - W @ Baylor (11)
    Cal - Play Oregon St (152) tonight
    Arizona - L @ Washington (53)
    Washington - W vs. Arizona (68)
    Alabama - W vs. Tenn (106)
    Miss St - @ Auburn (137) later
    Xavier - vs. Dayton (71) later
    BYU - @ Santa Clara (277)
    Central Florida vs East Carolina (180) playing now.

    Seton Hall, Illinois, and Texas with big losses today that hurt a lot. Uconn and NC State didn't help themselves with losses. KState with a HUGE win. Hope for some of these other bubble teams to lose tonight.


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    Re: Bubble Watch - Saturday

    I'm not sure if I'd consider Virginia a bubble team.



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    Re: Bubble Watch - Saturday

    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs2118 View Post
    I'm not sure if I'd consider Virginia a bubble team.
    RPI is lower than ours at #40. SOS 102. They are probably in, but its not a lock in my opinion.



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    Re: Bubble Watch - Saturday

    Personally, I think as long as we beat TT and have respectable performances in the remaining games, we are in. Winning a game or two of the other three would be icing on the cake.

    While watching a couple minutes of the Murray State game, Vitale was ranting about how a 25-3 mid major school shouldn't be kept out of the NCAA tournament just because they lose in their conference tournament. He argues that they never get a chance to play the big boys and that a team in a major conference that can't finish above .500 in their own conference should not be allowed to play in NCAA tournament. My problem with this argument is that if the "big boys" schedule these teams, then he criticizes them for playing a "cupcake" non conference schedule. Another problem I have with this is you are putting the "big boys" in the position of having to forecast a couple of years in advance which of the mid majors is going to be good. Who would have guessed before the season started that Murray State would be this good? Are they really that good, or is it the competition they play? I wish somebody would ask Vitale if he thought Murray State should get a better seed in the tourney than Duke or UNC because their record is better.

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    Re: Bubble Watch - Saturday

    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs2118 View Post
    I'm not sure if I'd consider Virginia a bubble team.
    They're probably in, but they could easily play themselves out of the tournament in the next two weeks. Play @VT, who already beat them this season. Then have UNC, who blew them out last week. FSU and @ Maryland aren't easy games either. Not sure an 8-8 ACC team with only one "signature" win (Michigan) gets in.



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    Re: Bubble Watch - Saturday

    if we finish ahead of K-State and Texas we will be dancing.



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    Quote Originally Posted by cycfan View Post
    Personally, I think as long as we beat TT and have respectable performances in the remaining games, we are in. Winning a game or two of the other three would be icing on the cake.

    While watching a couple minutes of the Murray State game, Vitale was ranting about how a 25-3 mid major school shouldn't be kept out of the NCAA tournament just because they lose in their conference tournament. He argues that they never get a chance to play the big boys and that a team in a major conference that can't finish above .500 in their own conference should not be allowed to play in NCAA tournament. My problem with this argument is that if the "big boys" schedule these teams, then he criticizes them for playing a "cupcake" non conference schedule. Another problem I have with this is you are putting the "big boys" in the position of having to forecast a couple of years in advance which of the mid majors is going to be good. Who would have guessed before the season started that Murray State would be this good? Are they really that good, or is it the competition they play? I wish somebody would ask Vitale if he thought Murray State should get a better seed in the tourney than Duke or UNC because their record is better.

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    Re: Bubble Watch - Saturday

    We're playing for a better seed now. We're in.



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    Re: Bubble Watch - Saturday

    Quote Originally Posted by Lewdawg123 View Post
    Here are the teams we are competing with for at large spots and how they did today so far. Parenthesis - Opponent RPI

    Virginia - W vs. Maryland (94)
    Miami - W vs. Wake Forest (157)
    NC State - L vs. FSU (19)
    UConn - L vs Marquette (10)
    Seton Hall L @ Cincy (84)
    Minnesota @ NW - Playing Now - both bubble teams
    Illinois - L @ Nebby (121)
    Texas - L @ Okie St (103)
    KState - W @ Baylor (11)
    Cal - Play Oregon St (152) tonight
    Arizona - L @ Washington (53)
    Washington - W vs. Arizona (68)
    Alabama - W vs. Tenn (106)
    Miss St - @ Auburn (137) later
    Xavier - vs. Dayton (71) later
    BYU - @ Santa Clara (277)
    Central Florida vs East Carolina (180) playing now.

    Seton Hall, Illinois, and Texas with big losses today that hurt a lot. Uconn and NC State didn't help themselves with losses. KState with a HUGE win. Hope for some of these other bubble teams to lose tonight.
    Not a ton of movement.

    I don't like overuse of the term "eye test," but Illinois just doesn't seem like a tournament team, does it? Numbers & quality wins are there, but tournament teams cann't get spanked that badly vs. sub-100s.



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    Re: Bubble Watch - Saturday

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonz View Post
    We're playing for a better seed now. We're in.
    Ditto. As long as we beat TT :). (or someone else)



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    Re: Bubble Watch - Saturday

    Quote Originally Posted by el tornado View Post
    if we finish ahead of K-State and Texas we will be dancing.
    Conference standings have nothing to do with our tourney chances.



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    Re: Bubble Watch - Saturday

    Quote Originally Posted by Cincyclone View Post
    Conference standings have nothing to do with our tourney chances.
    BS. It may not be any kind of official criteria, but it matters.



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    Re: Bubble Watch - Saturday

    Kansas State may have just become a key rival for a spot.



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    Re: Bubble Watch - Saturday

    Big 12 is getting 6 unless someone really flames out.



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    Re: Bubble Watch - Saturday

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonepride View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cincyclone View Post
    Conference standings have nothing to do with our tourney chances.
    BS. It may not be any kind of official criteria, but it matters.
    Head to head, RPI, SOS, quality wins, bad losses, and how you finish are all more important than conference standings. The committee gas stated and proven multiple times that conference standings are not a major criteria for selecting the teams.



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