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    5 More W's

    There's been lots of talk about what it takes to ensure ISU MBB team is invited to the dance. General consensus was it took/takes 21 in the W column to feel comfortable.

    At 16 now with 10 more to play (including 1 game in tourney).

    Assuming for the sake of discussion ISU wins exactly 21 games, where do they come?

    Remaining Schedule:
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    Tech
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    @MU
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    1st Round Game

    Only sure thing games look like Tech and A&M at home.
    OU at home looks pretty doable
    Best shot at road games look like OU/OSU, which are next up. Maybe @KSt.
    Baylor at home might be special w/Hilton Magic rocking the house.

    Anyone want to pick their top 5 best shots at W's?


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    Re: 5 More W's

    I think 4 more will get us in.


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    Re: 5 More W's

    Quote Originally Posted by MeanDean View Post
    There's been lots of talk about what it takes to ensure ISU MBB team is invited to the dance. General consensus was it took/takes 21 in the W column to feel comfortable.

    At 16 now with 10 more to play (including >1 game in tourney).

    Assuming for the sake of discussion ISU wins exactly 21 games, where do they come?

    Remaining Schedule:
    @OU
    @OSU
    A&M
    @Baylor
    OU
    Tech
    @KSt
    @MU
    Baylor
    1st Round Game

    Only sure thing games look like Tech and A&M at home.
    OU at home looks pretty doable
    Best shot at road games look like OU/OSU, which are next up. Maybe @KSt.
    Baylor at home might be special w/Hilton Magic rocking the house.

    Anyone want to pick their top 5 best shots at W's?
    Basically agree w/your synopsis, but really think this our first time in forever we're not 1 and done in KC even if we play well here on out and get the 1st round bye.


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    Re: 5 More W's

    Get one of the next two, and win out at home. Those last three road games will be tough to win.



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    Re: 5 More W's

    Simple plan... rather than choosing... just win out!!!



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    Re: 5 More W's

    Split the Oklahoma road games and let Hilton Magic carry us through the rest of our home games, that's going to be our ticket to the dance.



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    Re: 5 More W's

    I think the best chance is to win out at home and pick up one road win. I really don't like any of those road games.



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    Re: 5 More W's

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones21 View Post
    I think 4 more will get us in.
    No way. 20 wins wont do it. we have a minimum of 10 games left, and if we only win 4 of those, it wont be seen as a positive. 5 wins, depending on where they come, will put us on the bubble. I think the magic number for ISU is 22...if we are at 22 wins by selection Sunday, we will be dancing, no question.

    I dont think its much to ask ISU to win 4 of their next 6, and at least take 1 of those last 3 games. Then go down to KC and take at least 1. Theres your 22 wins.


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    Re: 5 More W's

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    No way. 20 wins wont do it. we have a minimum of 10 games left, and if we only win 4 of those, it wont be seen as a positive. 5 wins, depending on where they come, will put us on the bubble. I think the magic number for ISU is 22...if we are at 22 wins by selection Sunday, we will be dancing, no question.

    I dont think its much to ask ISU to win 4 of their next 6, and at least take 1 of those last 3 games. Then go down to KC and take at least 1. Theres your 22 wins.
    We win 4 more and we're very possibly 4th in the big 12 (the couple scenarios i've run with beating @OU\TAMU\OU\TTU get us there) . No way the 4th ranked team in the b12 isnt in.

    The whole idea of needing to win 1 in the tourney is a bit antiquated too with the new tourney format. Its not like we jump in and play a low seed, our first round if we're 4th or 5th will be the 4th or 5th seeded team.



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    Re: 5 More W's

    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFine View Post
    Get one of the next two, and win out at home. Those last three road games will be tough to win.
    This ^^^

    Do it and we'll be 10-5 (20-8) heading into the brutal last three. Finish off Baylor's title hopes on March 3rd and we finish 21 - 10 going into the BigXII tourney.

    Wish we had the two bad losses back. How would 23 -8 look?



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    Re: 5 More W's

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    No way. 20 wins wont do it. we have a minimum of 10 games left, and if we only win 4 of those, it wont be seen as a positive. 5 wins, depending on where they come, will put us on the bubble. I think the magic number for ISU is 22...if we are at 22 wins by selection Sunday, we will be dancing, no question.

    I dont think its much to ask ISU to win 4 of their next 6, and at least take 1 of those last 3 games. Then go down to KC and take at least 1. Theres your 22 wins.

    Agree... I think we have no chance with 20, 21 gets us on the bubble leaning in and 22 should be comfortably in. Our non-conference is really going to hurt us when they start talking bubble teams. 20 wins and our resume is worse than Va Tech's last year.



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    Re: 5 More W's

    Remaining Schedule:
    @OU W 70%
    @OSU W 50%
    A&M W 80%
    @Baylor L 20%
    OU W 85%
    Tech W 90 %
    @KSt W 50%
    @MU L 20%
    Baylor L 35%
    1st Round Game W

    With percent change that we will win each individual game.

    Puts us at 23-10.

    We will probably drop an easier game at some point and everyone will abandon hope, but then we will probably pick one up somewhere vs Baylor or Mizzou.


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    Re: 5 More W's

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    We win 4 more and we're very possibly 4th in the big 12 (the couple scenarios i've run with beating @OU\TAMU\OU\TTU get us there) . No way the 4th ranked team in the b12 isnt in.

    The whole idea of needing to win 1 in the tourney is a bit antiquated too with the new tourney format. Its not like we jump in and play a low seed, our first round if we're 4th or 5th will be the 4th or 5th seeded team.
    ISU could finish at 4th in the conference and loose their last 4 games. If ISU goes into Selection Sunday on a 4 game losing streak, I don't like their chances.



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    Re: 5 More W's

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    We win 4 more and we're very possibly 4th in the big 12 (the couple scenarios i've run with beating @OU\TAMU\OU\TTU get us there) . No way the 4th ranked team in the b12 isnt in.

    The whole idea of needing to win 1 in the tourney is a bit antiquated too with the new tourney format. Its not like we jump in and play a low seed, our first round if we're 4th or 5th will be the 4th or 5th seeded team.
    I could actually see this happening. There have been times where the Big 12 only had 4 teams in when the conference was at 12. If there are not 4 teams that the selection committee feels are worthy, I could see them only inviting 3. If we just win 5 more I would say this won't happen though.



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    Re: 5 More W's

    Quote Originally Posted by Max57 View Post
    This ^^^

    Do it and we'll be 10-5 (20-8) heading into the brutal last three. Finish off Baylor's title hopes on March 3rd and we finish 21 - 10 going into the BigXII tourney.

    Wish we had the two bad losses back. How would 23 -8 look?
    The NCAA selection people do not look at losses to RPI top 100 teams as "bad" losses. ISU fans can look at them that way, but they simply are not that bad.

    ISU problem, if there is one right now, is lack of quality wins. That is one more reason the Baylor game in Hilton will be so big.



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