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    Chatter about FSU & Clemson & Big 12

    Lots of message boards and blogs are posting things about FSU & Clemson considering exploratory boards for their athletic depts. I'm not saying its a certain thing but I thought this made way too much sense for the Big 12 in the first place to go after these two schools, for it not to happen even though everything we heard was BYU or Big East schools.

    Say what you want about the Big 12 and the disagreements but they can command a big tv contract and the current ACC CANNOT. Look at their attendance numbers for a big portion of their league. As long as the SEC doesn't want to expand into states in their footprint and the rumor is they are looking at the state of North Carolina(probably NC St.) and the state of Virginia with Va. Tech. FSU & Clemson really have no other options than the Big 12 and they are two of the few schools with any real football support attendance wise and they add quite a few tv sets. If they wanted more I think they could consider Maryland & Ga. Tech also, that would be lots of tv sets if they wanted to get a network finally. There is talk the new NBC sports channel may drive bidding up as well or be able to help with a regional network.

    If the Big 12 would never disband 10 schools would be fine but for ISU's sake I hope it happens because a 12 or 14 or even 16 team league would give them more security.



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    Re: Chatter about FSU & Clemson & Big 12

    That would be great, IMO. Not necessarily because I want to expand for the sake of expansion, but I'm sick of feeling insecure about the B12's future. If you add FSU and Clemson, it cements the B12 as a dominant conference on the same par as the B1G, SEC or Pac12 in terms of staying power.



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    Re: Chatter about FSU & Clemson & Big 12

    Playing FSU in football and having Senneca Wallace be honorary captain. It was because of that game that my wife almost didn't marry me. Let's just say it involved a car, vomit, 3 flights of stairs to clean out the vomit filled car.


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    Re: Chatter about FSU & Clemson & Big 12

    Maybe Neinas is just getting the ACC nervous so they will go after UCONN and Rutgers. This would basically collapse the BE and would free up other teams while not making us look like the bad guys.



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    Re: Chatter about FSU & Clemson & Big 12

    "Clemson would be a great addition to the B12 in football!" -WVU



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    Re: Chatter about FSU & Clemson & Big 12

    Rather have Louisville and ND, much nicer for travel. ( I know ND is not coming- a guy can dream though. )



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    Re: Chatter about FSU & Clemson & Big 12

    Ames-Tallahassee is only about 100 miles more than Columbia-Gainesville.

    Would LOVE to have FSU in the big XII. Not just for football. They had some nice wins last week on the hardwood.


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    Re: Chatter about FSU & Clemson & Big 12

    So here it is, Big 12 adds four teams:

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    ND
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    Clemson

    Still play 9 conference games - all in your 7 team division and three from other division, rotated every year.

    Then again, maybe not.....who knows?



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    Re: Chatter about FSU & Clemson & Big 12

    If you add in the value of big matchups for the league with FSU its huge for the Big 12. And even though ND is not coming now, if they ever want or have to join a league they seem to have this thing about being a "national" school. Adding some Southeastern and/or mid atlantic schools will help that.

    I still think the Big 10 is best for them but there is animosity with the Big 10 and it is not the national conference the Big 12 would be if the Big 12 had FSU & Clemson, and maybe another Florida school or mid atlantic school for 14. Don't underestimate the recruiting aspect the Big 12 would try and sell ND on playing a team in Texas and Florida every year

    ND will never choose the SEC.


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    Re: Chatter about FSU & Clemson & Big 12

    IMO, if Luck is our new commish, I expect the Big 12 to go to at least 14 teams. He is all about building and generating money. I would love to see us add FSU, Clemson, Ga Tech, and Louisville to go to 14 teams.



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    Re: Chatter about FSU & Clemson & Big 12

    Quote Originally Posted by snowcraig2.0 View Post
    IMO, if Luck is our new commish, I expect the Big 12 to go to at least 14 teams. He is all about building and generating money. I would love to see us add FSU, Clemson, Ga Tech, and Louisville to go to 14 teams.
    If we're going to dream that big, might as well go with Miami, Virginia Tech, NC State, Pitt or Maryland over Louisville.



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    Re: Chatter about FSU & Clemson & Big 12

    No way on Miami.



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    Re: Chatter about FSU & Clemson & Big 12

    Quote Originally Posted by ShopTalk View Post
    So here it is, Big 12 adds four teams:

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    Clemson

    Still play 9 conference games - all in your 7 team division and three from other division, rotated every year.

    Then again, maybe not.....who knows?
    That's the #1 money generating and competitive conference in both major sports.

    ND would have to chose between playing a rival Big Ten team and their USC rivalry, but to have regular new rivalries against marquee matchups FSU, OU, Texas and in the best recruiting areas would make up for it.

    Hope even a fraction of this is true and the idiot Pac 12 NFL 2.0 commissioner stomped on the tip of a sleeping dragon's tail.



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    Re: Chatter about FSU & Clemson & Big 12

    Quote Originally Posted by royhobbs09 View Post
    If we're going to dream that big, might as well go with Miami, Virginia Tech, NC State, Pitt or Maryland over Louisville.
    I think Louisville is straight up better than Pitt and NCState. If FSU is in they're better for the rest of the conference than Miami too.

    VTech might be a better add though if WVU, FSU and Clemson are in.

    Louisville is the only quality add that geographically spans the gap between the 9 central time zone teams and WVU, other eastern schools. After them that role would drop to teams like Tulane, Memphis and Cinci, pretty big drop.



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