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    2nd half struggles

    Seems like we have played really bad in the 2nd half offensively during conference games so I went back and looked. Here are some stats

    @Kansas
    46% FG and 7-13 3pt FG in the 1st half
    27% FG and 2-15 3 PT FG in the 2nd half

    Missouri
    48% FG and 8-12 3pt FG in the 1st half
    40% FG and 4-11 3 PT FG in the 2nd half

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    51% FG and 6-15 3pt FG in the 1st half
    41% FG and 2-8 3 PT FG in the 2nd half

    Texas
    59% FG and 9-12 3pt FG in the 1st half
    43% FG and 1-9 3 PT FG in the 2nd half

    So on average our FG % has decreased by 13.25% in the 2nd half

    Also we are 30-52 (58%) from 3pt range in the 1st half versus 9-43 (21%) in the 2nd half

    I think we come into games with a good gameplan and move the ball really well but for whatever reason we get out of that in the second half and you see a lot more iso's and lack of ball movement. For us to be successful in Big 12 play we can't keep this trend up. It's not only on the offensive end either as Kansas and Missouri shot 15.5% better in the 2nd half



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    Re: 2nd half struggles

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones85' View Post
    Seems like we have played really bad in the 2nd half offensively during conference games so I went back and looked. Here are some stats

    @Kansas
    46% FG and 7-13 3pt FG in the 1st half
    27% FG and 2-15 3 PT FG in the 2nd half

    Missouri
    48% FG and 8-12 3pt FG in the 1st half
    40% FG and 4-11 3 PT FG in the 2nd half

    @A&M
    51% FG and 6-15 3pt FG in the 1st half
    41% FG and 2-8 3 PT FG in the 2nd half

    Texas
    59% FG and 9-12 3pt FG in the 1st half
    43% FG and 1-9 3 PT FG in the 2nd half

    So on average our FG % has decreased by 13.25% in the 2nd half

    Also we are 30-52 (58%) from 3pt range in the 1st half versus 9-43 (21%) in the 2nd half

    I think we come into games with a good gameplan and move the ball really well but for whatever reason we get out of that in the second half and you see a lot more iso's and lack of ball movement. For us to be successful in Big 12 play we can't keep this trend up. It's not only on the offensive end either as Kansas and Missouri shot 15.5% better in the 2nd half
    I've observed the same tendency and have wondered if it is a strength and conditioning issue. It seems to me that fatigue may be a factor in the drop off.

    Regardless of the reason, I would like to see us take fewer jump shots in the 2nd half and work harder at attacking the rim. That approach may improve our %s.



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    Re: 2nd half struggles

    It all comes down to what ISU has always done for whatever reason in all sports and it is taking our foot off the gas. We are up so we try to change our game plan and hold on to the lead rather than continuing to play the style that got us there in the first place. It's been an epidemic at ISU for the past 20 years.



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    Re: 2nd half struggles

    We have had the lead at half in every Big 12 game this season so far, right?



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    Re: 2nd half struggles

    I think it has more to do with the opposition. From what I've noticed it's that the opposition plays much more in our face defensively in the second half which limits our open looks. This is why we seem to go Isolation with Royce so much in the second half and it's because we don't have the guards to beat the suffocating defense on the perimeter.


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    Re: 2nd half struggles

    I've noticed it's more the last 5 minutes of each half. Can't explain it, but effort and results go way down. It's like they can't sustain a high level of operation for more than 15 consecutive minutes.



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    Re: 2nd half struggles

    Going all the way back to the Michigan game......the only game we have shot the ball better in the 2nd half was against Lipscomb



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    Re: 2nd half struggles

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones85' View Post
    Seems like we have played really bad in the 2nd half offensively during conference games so I went back and looked. Here are some stats

    @Kansas
    46% FG and 7-13 3pt FG in the 1st half
    27% FG and 2-15 3 PT FG in the 2nd half

    Missouri
    48% FG and 8-12 3pt FG in the 1st half
    40% FG and 4-11 3 PT FG in the 2nd half

    @A&M
    51% FG and 6-15 3pt FG in the 1st half
    41% FG and 2-8 3 PT FG in the 2nd half

    Texas
    59% FG and 9-12 3pt FG in the 1st half
    43% FG and 1-9 3 PT FG in the 2nd half

    So on average our FG % has decreased by 13.25% in the 2nd half

    Also we are 30-52 (58%) from 3pt range in the 1st half versus 9-43 (21%) in the 2nd half

    I think we come into games with a good gameplan and move the ball really well but for whatever reason we get out of that in the second half and you see a lot more iso's and lack of ball movement. For us to be successful in Big 12 play we can't keep this trend up. It's not only on the offensive end either as Kansas and Missouri shot 15.5% better in the 2nd half
    I personally think the opposition so far this year has adjusted very well for in the second half to the hot shooter and we have not adjusted at all.



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    Re: 2nd half struggles

    I thought we had a lot of great looks in the 2nd half against KU that simply weren't executed. We were running well designed plays that put our players into scoring position.

    It was a straight up lack of execution out of our players.


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    Re: 2nd half struggles

    Coaching.

    We either a.) go into a conservative lead-preservation mode or b.) the opposition takes away something that was working in the 1st half and we don't adjust properly.

    Hoiberg is still learning. I think he's getting better, but something like problem "a" above has been plaguing ISU sports for a long time, as mentioned above.



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    Re: 2nd half struggles

    It most certainly isn't a). It's more b) and lack of offensive execution in the 2nd half.



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    Re: 2nd half struggles

    Maybe Hoiberg can call Bobby Lutz during halftime for advice...



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    Re: 2nd half struggles

    We definitely haven't been going that conservative in Big 12 play. We did it a lot last year, but haven't seen much of it this year.

    It definitely seems like lack of execution to me.


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    Re: 2nd half struggles

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_4_State View Post
    We definitely haven't been going that conservative in Big 12 play. We did it a lot last year, but haven't seen much of it this year.

    It definitely seems like lack of execution to me.
    + 1

    I haven't watch every game, but this has stuck out on several occasions



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    Re: 2nd half struggles

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Architect View Post
    I think it has more to do with the opposition. From what I've noticed it's that the opposition plays much more in our face defensively in the second half which limits our open looks. This is why we seem to go Isolation with Royce so much in the second half and it's because we don't have the guards to beat the suffocating defense on the perimeter.
    ^This, good teams like KU and MIZZ aren't going to let us continue to pound them on offense, in both games they really got after us defensively in the second half and we didn't really have an answer. Like was said in the press conference Monday we need to find a way to stay patient when this happens and really work for a good shot on our possessions.


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