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    Messingham Interview

    Just lisnted to Messingham on 1700 The Champ. Courtney talked alot about how we will still be a spread offense, but mentioned that we will go under center at times. I think alot of us are happy to hear that. Alot of us were frustrated when Herman would make us run out of the shot gun on a 3rd and inches or right on the goal line. I think having a few plays under center will help this team tremendously.


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    Re: Messingham Interview

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones21 View Post
    Just lisnted to Messingham on 1700 The Champ. Courtney talked alot about how we will still be a spread offense, but mentioned that we will go under center at times. I think alot of us are happy to hear that. Alot of us were frustrated when Herman would make us run out of the shot gun on a 3rd and inches or right on the goal line. I think having a few plays under center will help this team tremendously.
    I also think that going under center in called-for situations is important. I almost wonder if Herman was reluctant to in fear of a fumbled exchange since it probably happened rarely, if ever, in practice.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndCyCE View Post
    I also think that going under center in called-for situations is important. I almost wonder if Herman was reluctant to in fear of a fumbled exchange since it probably happened rarely, if ever, in practice.
    I hope all of you begging for this will still want it when you see the results. In other words, never taking snaps under center and then doing it for just a couple of plays can be a major problem. It will need to be repped a lot in practice.

    I'm not against it if done right, but I don't think it brings as many benefits as many think it does.



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    Re: Messingham Interview

    Quote Originally Posted by D UP Clones View Post
    I hope all of you begging for this will still want it when you see the results. In other words, never taking snaps under center and then doing it for just a couple of plays can be a major problem. It will need to be repped a lot in practice.

    I'm not against it if done right, but I don't think it brings as many benefits as many think it does.
    This is what I meant when I talked about Herman's reluctance. I didn't disagree with him staying in shotgun for this same reason. He obviuosly didn't feel it was the right call, or thought it was too risky. Unlike a few others, I had a ton of respect for him as a playcaller.



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    That is music to my ears! Play action, 3rd and short...Get UNDER CENTER! Love it!



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    Re: Messingham Interview

    Quote Originally Posted by jj-cyclones View Post
    That is music to my ears! Play action, 3rd and short...Get UNDER CENTER! Love it!
    That will not be something that happens much, if at all.


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    Re: Messingham Interview

    What will we be going under center for than, besides the obvious QB sneak/RB dive on (insert down) and inches?



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    Re: Messingham Interview

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones21 View Post
    Just lisnted to Messingham on 1700 The Champ. Courtney talked alot about how we will still be a spread offense, but mentioned that we will go under center at times. I think alot of us are happy to hear that. Alot of us were frustrated when Herman would make us run out of the shot gun on a 3rd and inches or right on the goal line. I think having a few plays under center will help this team tremendously.
    +10000000000000000000000000000000...... it will be very refreshing to see plays under center again! Thanks for sharing.



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    Re: Messingham Interview

    Hopefully we do it more than just to run out of on 3rd and short- better success if the defense not know what is coming.



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    Re: Messingham Interview

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones21 View Post
    Just lisnted to Messingham on 1700 The Champ. Courtney talked alot about how we will still be a spread offense, but mentioned that we will go under center at times. I think alot of us are happy to hear that. Alot of us were frustrated when Herman would make us run out of the shot gun on a 3rd and inches or right on the goal line. I think having a few plays under center will help this team tremendously.
    It's a minor detail, but having two ISU QBs in the NFL for the last decade or so is not a bad thing for our program. Things may change but under center with 3,5,7 step drops=pro QB skill set.

    I doubt Seneca Wallace would have been looked as seriously as a QB only NFL talent if he had run only spread shotgun for two years at ISU.

    Not saying it's a massive impact on our program, but it helps a talented QB with NFL aspirations to have at least some experience under center.

    I think the modern college spread is the way to go for ISU, but excited that we could mix it up on offense with a power game if we have an edge on the line of scrimmage.



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    Re: Messingham Interview

    With the success of guys like Manning, Brady and even Rodgers and a few others to a lesser extent, it won't be long until the NFL is mostly shotgun as well.



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    Re: Messingham Interview

    Quote Originally Posted by cybsball20 View Post
    With the success of guys like Manning, Brady and even Rodgers and a few others to a lesser extent, it won't be long until the NFL is mostly shotgun as well.
    looks like those words were had to come by Bears fan.


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    Re: Messingham Interview

    Under center is over rated.



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    Re: Messingham Interview

    Interesting story... The NFL average is 38% of all snaps are taken out of the shotgun, with the Lions leading at 64%. In 2005 only 10.8% of snaps were from the shotgun. I would be willing to bet that by 2015, the average will be about 64%.

    NFL - Teams like Detriot Lions increasingly rely on shotgun formation - ESPN



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    Re: Messingham Interview

    Quote Originally Posted by cybsball20 View Post
    Interesting story... The NFL average is 38% of all snaps are taken out of the shotgun, with the Lions leading at 64%. In 2005 only 10.8% of snaps were from the shotgun. I would be willing to bet that by 2015, the average will be about 64%.

    NFL - Teams like Detriot Lions increasingly rely on shotgun formation - ESPN

    It's such a quarterback league now.

    The days of I-Formation RBs running Power and Iso every other play are over.



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